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PostWed Nov 14, 2018 6:07 pm 
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dissappearing cabins and trails is HIGHLY suspicious. Now weird buildings with names like that poppin up in text?!

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PostWed Nov 14, 2018 7:08 pm 
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I've toyed with putting a big list of abandoned trails on wikipedia. But... would that cause too much attention? Better to leave them harder to discover? Meanwhile, procrastination and laziness works.
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PostWed Nov 14, 2018 7:21 pm 
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Kim Brown wrote:
BdCast wrote:
Skyscraper Islamabad

Pretty much the best auto-correct I have ever seen.

Oh wow!

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PostWed Nov 14, 2018 8:33 pm 
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BdCast (or any anyone else interested). The Mountaineers has a large set of Robert Kinzebach Pic-Tour maps covering many areas of the Cascades and Olympic mountains. A couple copies of each map are in the permanent collection but there are lots of spares. If anyone wants a paper set of these maps PM me. I will need to get a set together and then you can pick them up at the Mountaineers facility (or pay me to send it via mail - probably not worth it).

You can browse an online inventory of the maps here at the section labelled "Robert Kinzebach Pic-Tour Guide maps"

Here's a good example of lost trails on these maps. It shows trails past Sunday Lake (North Fork Snoqualmie) to Honey and Mowitch Lake. Also an indication of how far one could drive up the Quartz Creek road in those days (1980s).

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PostThu Nov 15, 2018 6:14 pm 
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Interesting thread.

While it is nice to go online to pour over old maps I much prefer a paper copy in hand. I can provide copies of the following if any one is interested.
1955 Mt Rainier NP usgs
1918 Wenatchee NF
Metskers that predate the red and yellow envelope versions, guessing the 50s.
North Central wa
Yakima county
King County
Sportsmens guide 1953 collection of 20 maps covering state of Washington
Just pay for copying and postage.
Would be interested in paying for copies of anything interesting from your collection.

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PostFri Nov 30, 2018 12:03 am 
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Wow, puzzlr - that Pic-Tour map is great. Has some small details I haven't seen on any other maps (like the small spur trail that forks to the right on the way up to Pratt balcony).

If you're GIS-minded, there are a few other useful resources for researching abandoned routes. WA DNR has a few open geodatabases available:

Forest Practices Orphaned and Abandoned Roads- exactly what it sounds like.

DNR Proprietary Roads (Statewide) - This purports to only show active roads, but also contains many long-abandoned ones.

Washington State LiDAR portal - Even the online viewer is really useful, but the real fun is in the raw data. Fragments of abandoned roads and trails are often visible in the DTM hillshade layer. ("DTM" is a model of the earth's surface, with all vegetation removed.) Coverage is surprisingly good.
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PostThu Oct 15, 2020 7:45 am 
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Interesting digging thru these again
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PostThu Oct 15, 2020 9:24 am 
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thanks for the bump Timberghost!

This is such a cool thread and so many great resources too!
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PostThu Oct 15, 2020 10:02 am 
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Riverside Laker wrote:
I've toyed with putting a big list of abandoned trails on wikipedia. But... would that cause too much attention? Better to leave them harder to discover? Meanwhile, procrastination and laziness works.

Affirmative, on all counts. True, I like to read of unlikely places to explore, but I more don't want whatever remote places we still have to be "discovered" and then trashed by slobs.

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PostThu Oct 15, 2020 4:53 pm 
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Here is a USFS recreation map I made with a bunch of GIS layers you can turn on/off/restack.
Covers most national forests.
When the map opens, 2 layers are 'on'.

White = open USFS road (this layer is 'on top' and therefore clickable)
Orange = closed USFS road

Click "Map tips" upper left corner for more info.

Open GISsurfer map:
https://mappingsupport.com/p2/gissurfer.php?center=47.810140,-121.533165&zoom=12&basemap=ESRI_scanned_topo_USA&overlay=Motor_road_closed,Motor_road_open&txtfile=https://mappingsupport.com/p2/special_maps/recreation/USFS_recreation.txt
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PostFri Oct 16, 2020 6:10 am 
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Great addition Joey
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