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PostMon Feb 19, 2024 3:25 pm 
This 2 hour documentary on PBS Passport "Outside Lens" shows the terrific effort one family undergoes to escape North Korea to Thailand through China, Vietnam, and Laos to eventually settle in South Korea. https://www.kcts9.org/show/independent-lens/episode/beyond-utopia-aybcvi Excellent!

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PostThu Feb 22, 2024 7:34 am 
Couldn't find that here but did watch this.

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PostThu Feb 22, 2024 10:39 am 
Here's a 70 minute podcast - great for a drive to the trail - about North Korea's information laws. A hacker story about breaking into a secure network where all the info is poisoned, and giving out the medicine. https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/71/

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PostThu Feb 22, 2024 11:35 am 
gb wrote:
This 2 hour documentary on PBS Passport "Outside Lens" shows the terrific effort one family undergoes to escape North Korea to Thailand through China, Vietnam, and Laos to eventually settle in South Korea.
I watched that doc a month or so ago; it's more like "reality TV" than a conventional doc. I was very surprised by how much danger the family was in, even after they were across the NK border, ie, some of those countries will return the fugitives to NK if caught. I've always wondered about the weird paranoia of the Kim "dynasty". They should know they'd never be invaded b/c they don't have anything any perceived hostile country would want. But clearly, if most of the population had any idea what the outside world was really like, their government wouldn't last long. No wonder their repression and propaganda is so pervasive.

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PostThu Feb 22, 2024 11:14 pm 
I didn't watch it, but I'd be wary of taking "documentaries" like this at face value. One, because the "public broadcasting system" is little more than another cog in the US imperial propaganda machine at this point, with an obvious interest in painting America's perceived enemies in a bad light when it serves our imperial ruling class (see anything on the network about, e.g., Russia, Iran or China). Two, because some of these defectors are obvious grifters who find that they can achieve fame, fortune and influence by exaggerating and lying about their experiences for Western audiences who have been conditioned by the aforementioned propaganda. For a great example of the latter, see Yeonmi Park (hilariously exposed along with other defector-grifters here). None of which means that there aren’t bad things happening to people in North Korea or that the subjects of this documentary are lying—just be aware that you might be buying into lies and propaganda.

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PostSat Feb 24, 2024 4:46 pm 
NightOwl wrote:
I didn't watch it
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you might be buying into lies and propaganda.
LOL. You didn't watch it but offer some propaganda of your own.

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PostSat Feb 24, 2024 8:32 pm 
Here's a subreddit devoted to propaganda glorifying NK, maybe owl bot has been training on this. https://www.reddit.com/r/MovingToNorthKorea/ clown.gif

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