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The Angry Hiker SAR Blacklistee


Joined: 13 Jun 2008 Posts: 2890 | TRs Location: Kentwila
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Well, I don't have very many plant allergies, but just being in the vicinity of those things gets my eyes burning. They're blooming like crazy around the Green River right now. Someone went along and uprooted a ton of it and tossed it all on the ground. That seems a little pointless, unless they have a problem with mistaking it for parsnip and eating it. |
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Mike Collins Member


Joined: 18 Dec 2001 Posts: 2835 | TRs
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tigermn Member


Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 9248 | TRs Location: There...
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puzzlr Mid Fork Rocks


Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 6840 | TRs Location: Stuck in the middle
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I've been doing some invasive weed picking at the Dingford trailhead, mostly for Herb Robert. But I'd like to also learn what native plants like to grow out into the open sunny area there. Here are three of them that I'd like help identifying. It will be easier next spring when they are flowering, but can anyone help now? I'm impatient.
 Dingford trailhead plant  Dingford trailhead plant  Salmonberry at the Dingford trailhead -------------- Mid Fork Rocks • flickr |
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Brockton Member


Joined: 02 Aug 2012 Posts: 242 | TRs Location: West Seattle
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I don't know about the first one. Kinnikinnick?
The second one looks like plantain from the look of the leaves and the flower/seed stalk. I believe that's a non-native weed.
The third one is definitely not thimbleberry, which has simple palmate leaves, like a maple leaf. It looks like it could be salmonberry, with the two lower leaflets making the shape of butterfly wings. (That's something I heard about identifying salmonberry.) |
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hatchetation Member


Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Posts: 28 | TRs Location: Seattle
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Found these conifer-ish creeping vine things on the trail up to Pratt balcony. There was no woody stem like a young sapling. Just a vine coming out of the ground. Very soft. Weird habit - never seen anything like em.
My best guesses are probably terrible - polytrichum? Cryptomeria japonica?
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Wastral Member


Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 199 | TRs
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puzzlr wrote: |
I've been doing some invasive weed picking at the Dingford trailhead, mostly for Herb Robert. But I'd like to also learn what native plants like to grow out into the open sunny area there. Here are three of them that I'd like help identifying. It will be easier next spring when they are flowering, but can anyone help now? I'm impatient.
 Dingford trailhead plant  Dingford trailhead plant  Salmonberry at the Dingford trailhead |
1) Creeping Snowberry if fuzzy(can't see well enough), otherwise could be a compact form of Cranberry
2) Common Plantain
3) SalmonBerry
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Wastral Member


Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 199 | TRs
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hatchetation wrote: |
Found these conifer-ish creeping vine things on the trail up to Pratt balcony. There was no woody stem like a young sapling. Just a vine coming out of the ground. Very soft. Weird habit - never seen anything like em.
My best guesses are probably terrible - polytrichum? Cryptomeria japonica?
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Pacific Yew is my bet where it has more sunlight than normal. Can look different depending on how much light it gets. If in VERY deep shade it will be VERY dark green leaved and very sprawling, open form. If in more light, the new growth, then a much brighter green and compact form.
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gb Member


Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Posts: 5552 | TRs
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brewermd Member


Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 68 | TRs
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There is an app called inaturalist that would help with these ids. The way it works is that you take a picture and upload into inaturalist and it ids it from a large data bank of pictures that has been accumulating over several years. Works quite with plants and insects but lacks a little in mushrooms. The North Cascades Park people promote the app during their bioblitz activities. |
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robertjoy Member


Joined: 25 Sep 2011 Posts: 107 | TRs
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from your link: conium maculatum. google search shows foliage as VERY different from the leaf pattern in question. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Conium_maculatum_2.jpg
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hatchetation Member


Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Posts: 28 | TRs Location: Seattle
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gb wrote: |
Lycopodium. A type of club moss. Match the species at the Burke WTU image collection. |
Ahhh! I think that's it. Lycopodium annotinum perhaps. Thanks! That Burke site is awesome, haven't seen it before. Lead to the pnwherbaria.org entry, with this specimen image.
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gb Member


Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Posts: 5552 | TRs
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hatchetation wrote: |
gb wrote: |
Lycopodium. A type of club moss. Match the species at the Burke WTU image collection. |
Ahhh! I think that's it. Lycopodium annotinum perhaps. Thanks! That Burke site is awesome, haven't seen it before. Lead to the pnwherbaria.org entry, with this specimen image.
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That is it. I thought you might be better served by doing a bit of investigating on your own. Although most of the images show the club moss to be upright, I've mostly seen it prostrate. |
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Sculpin Member


Joined: 23 Apr 2015 Posts: 840 | TRs
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gb wrote: |
Lycopodium. A type of club moss. |
A very humble group of plants these days, it was not always so. Wikipedia says:
"During the Carboniferous Period, tree-like Lycopodiophyta (such as Lepidodendron) formed huge forests that dominated the landscape."
They are among the most primitive of vascular plants and have continuously occupied the earth since the Silurian. In my experience they are rather uncommon around here.
The Smithsonian has some very impressive Lycopod fossil tree trunks.
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nordique Member


Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 1085 | TRs
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Thank you, Sculpin!
MANY decades ago, my high school football team was named the Sculpins. And 'Myoxocephalus octodecemspinosus' won me several college biology fieldtrip quizzes! |
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