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PostThu Feb 20, 2003 9:15 pm 
I have to agree that the Mineral Creek trail is pretty bad. What else would inspire one to take the following pictures? I've hiked the trail twice. It is nasty. Sometimes you can't see your feet.
exhibit a
exhibit a
exhibit b
exhibit b
exhibit no-see
exhibit no-see
well worth it
well worth it

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 12:50 am 
What trail? Hell with that, I'm going to Spectacle via Pete, even if it's 5 miles of flat no views (not that I have anything against flat).

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 1:07 am 
A short steep trail like the old Lake Serene trail may be a grind, but in a way I think it's better than hiking a trail like Mt. Si. It's more challenging but you know you're getting their fast. Continuous switchbacks can be demoralizing frown.gif shakehead.gif down.gif bawl.gif hurl.gif

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 1:28 am 
Thanks for the info BP Joe. I've been into Enjar and Hamar lakes via the Slide lake route but not over the ridge to Snowking. If you are going in the area for a week are you planning on hitting all the lakes from the Jordans to Cyclone?

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 1:54 am 
HD, I've been into Jordans many times. Ditto the granite lakes. Planning on slide and arrowhead, enjar and Whale. Then over to snowking and the surrounding lakes. TB

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 12:14 pm 
My vote would have been for Lake Serene based on the condition it was in the last time I was up there in 1972. Hand to hand combat on a muddy, eroded track and then when you finally reached the lake, a pile of garbage the size of Mt. Index. shakehead.gif

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 2:33 pm 
Oh Timber Cruiser how times have changed! Lake Serene was once #1 with a bullet on the bad trail hit list. The trail to Lake Serene was recently rebuilt. The trail now features many nice "hand-made" wooden stairs (instead of roots?) for your hiking convenience.

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 2:36 pm 
The fact that it has wooden stairs and such should be reason enough for inclusion in another category of worstest "trails".

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 3:53 pm 
The Nordrum Lake Trail is a fine example of steep, slick, rooty goodness.

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 4:18 pm 
A footnote of interesting history. The original name for Three Queens which overlooks Mineral Creek and trail was, can you guess hmmm.gif ??? ...Mineral Peak...I don't know when the change took place.

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 4:28 pm 
Yes, Nordrum is another bad one. The lower sections of the Bare Mountain trail should get an award for hugestest and thickestest ferns!

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 5:17 pm 
Trails are there to get you to your off-trail jumpoff point by headlamp...

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PostFri Feb 21, 2003 8:08 pm 
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The fact that it has wooden stairs and such should be reason enough for inclusion in another category of worstest "trails".
lol.gif Yep. Just say no to stairs. Trails like the old Lake Serene and the Lake Constance were steep, but they have a kind of charcater to them, or maybe they just build character. Oddly both the Found Lake and Lake Constance now both require roadwalking to get to the trailhead due to washouts. Character building is ok, but there can be too much of a good thing. hmmm.gif

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PostSat Feb 22, 2003 7:23 pm 
Wagonwheel Lake near staircase is no good. Steep.

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PostSat Feb 22, 2003 11:39 pm 
Good to see a little Olympics action in this thread. There aren't too many examples of steep trails that can compare to crossing the Olymipics West to East. Rough trails, real live bears and other critters, bee's nests and that damn up and down. Lacrosse Pass in the inner Olympics can be a challange with a full pack as I remember it as we progressed to Anderson Pass. Worst trail in the last couple of years ? The PCT switchback going south towards Spectacle lake and doing the switchback that never ends. Almost six miles back and forth in a old burnout down slowly, slowly, slowly. Most people take the cut off toward Pete lake, then reconnect with the PCT closer to the Spectacle lake trail. Having been a target of negative press earlier in this story, Pete is very sullen, subject to the shakes and will bring up individual issues as soon as he figures out the floor and the door knob.

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