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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 7:52 am 
Okay, I've found the right crowd to quiz about this. Many years ago, I spent a New Year's weekend with a pal of mine at the old Boy Scout camp at the upper end of Spirit Lake (it was a grueling hike through knee-deep snow, BTW!) That place is now under about 200 feet of debris and water. Anyway, he told me this story having to do with, perhaps, Sasquatch and a couple of brothers with a mining claim back in the St. Helens country somewhere, named Burgoine or Burgoyne, IIRC. It was, he said, supposed to have been part of the Sasquatch folklore. Maybe it was just a ghosty story to tell around the glow of a cabin's wood stove. Anybody here familiar with that tale?

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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 8:13 am 
There's a drawing of Sasquatch on the St Helens area map of the Washington Gazetteer. up.gif

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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 10:18 am 
I'm aware of the drawing, but it appears that's all you have to offer. I'm seriously curious about this tale, and whether there's even a hint of credibility to it. One of the brothers, according to this tale, went out to get supplies while the other one wintered on the claim. He kept a diary. The diary told of hearing howling or some damn thing that got increasingly nearer to their cabin, and finally right outside. Sounds more like the rantings of somebody who was isolated for many weeks than anything else, even hairy beasts pounding at the door. But, it was an interesting bit of Sasquatch lore. Face it, tales of Bigfoot are part of the mistique about this region.

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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 10:20 am 
My high school speech teacher was an avid hunter. He told us about seeing a Sasquatch while hunting one year. He saw it close up too.

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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 11:02 am 
I believe this is the story. It used to be in the old brochures they gave out. I think this is the origin of Ape Canyon there. The Ape cave was named after a spelunking club.

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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 11:03 am 
Backpacker Joe wrote:
My high school speech teacher was an avid hunter. He told us about seeing a Sasquatch while hunting one year. He saw it close up too.
A childhood friend of BPJ and I (Jay, you out there?) had a couple Sasquatch experiences. After the first one, he went back with a skeptic who came back a believer. Damn good stories, if nothing else. You've probably already found this, Dave, but here it is FWIW: I Fought the Apemen of Mt. St. Helens

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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 12:17 pm 
Dante wrote:
A childhood friend of BPJ and I (Jay, you out there?) had a couple Sasquatch experiences. After the first one, he went back with a skeptic who came back a believer. Damn good stories, if nothing else.
Sorry, Dante, but Workman is soliticing supportable information only. Thanks for sharing anyway; I enjoyed your post.

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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 1:27 pm 
Dante, I enjoyed your post, too. I'm aware of Fred Beck and his tale, and abut the miners' story and Ape Canyon. That got kind of drummed into me in the last century. Neither of them are the tale I'm thinking about though. But kind of interesting nonetheless. I've interviewed people who swore they had encounters with Bigfoot...and I remember a guy out in Grays Harbor a few years ago trying for his 15 minutes of fame by claiming he was the one who had left big tracks all over hell and gone to "start" the myth, but he looked awfully good for a guy that would have had to be at least 300 years old and living amongst the local tribes. The people I interviewed were responsible people, one actually a top manager in a company who did not want his name used for fear of being ridiculed out of his job. But this guy encountered something and it scared the crap out of him and his two hunting partners the year before St. Helens blew, and he was up in the Toutle Valley when it happened. So, I don't know. Just keep asking around I guess.

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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 3:15 pm 
Quark wrote:
There's a drawing of Sasquatch on the St Helens area map of the Washington Gazetteer. up.gif
Is that what that thing is. I bought one of those maps when they first came out back in the late 1980's. I took it work and showed everyone this cool set of topo maps for the whole state and it was less than $15. It wasn't long before someone spotted that symbol and asked what it was. I thought it was just something that DeLorme put in there so they could tell if their maps were being copied. I thought it looked like a penguin wearing Nikes. dizzy.gif

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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 3:48 pm 
I've noticed that bigfoot character too. Apparently, DeLorme does put little symbols on their maps to safeguard their copyrights: http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg377a/delorme.html

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PostTue Sep 12, 2006 9:49 pm 
Dave Workman wrote:
...even a hint of credibility to it.
Hint: there's no credibility to it.

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PostWed Sep 13, 2006 7:27 pm 
If you are curious about Bigfoot, try these sites... http://www.bigfootforums.com/ And a more colorful site, albeit more commercial: http://www.bfro.net/ You'd be surprized at how many people have seen (or believe they have seen) a Sasquatch.

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PostWed Sep 20, 2006 4:11 pm 
Dave Workman wrote:
...he told me this story having to do with, perhaps, Sasquatch and a couple of brothers with a mining claim back in the St. Helens country somewhere...
The first time I saw your post I misread it and thought the story was about a couple of brothers who had a Sasquatch partner in their mining claim. embarassedlaugh.gif

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PostMon Oct 23, 2006 11:48 am 
Might it be one of these reports........
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