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Backpacker Joe
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"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
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Allison
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Whatever. What I say about REI is all true.
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Backpacker Joe
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I've worked there before, what you are saying isn't true!
The only conservative outdoor establishment around here is Marmot Mountain Works. I worked there too. I know this because Lock Miller (the owner) is a very conservative guy!
TB
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
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Dante
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:15 am |
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I don't usually hang my food unless I'm out on the Olympic coast (LOTS of racoons and a few bears). Then I rent a bear can.
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Lead Dog
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 12:30 pm Hanging your food
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My hair's turning white, my neck's always been red, my collor's still blue.
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Karen
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:34 pm I seem to be lucky
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at least so far. In over 20 years of hiking I've consulted a compass ONCE and I am often off-trail. I don't hang my food though I did when I first began backpacking. On the coast I carry my food with me (once I've established base camp and go day-hiking) and at night put it in the tent with me. My food is dull, though. Mostly freeze-dried and not very aromatic. The racoons are the real threat along the coast -- we watched them once walk a WIRE where a food bag was hanging, UNTIE it, and let it fall to the ground. I don't carry a gun.
Honestly, I don't understand "map heads" all that well. I don't understand why so many hikers will work their butt off to get to a spectacular view and then spend all their time on a summit looking at a map and identifying peaks. Maybe it's just me. I don't care what peaks I'm looking at -- as all mountain scenery is grand. I also don't understand people that stop at every trail junction and whip out their maps -- especially when the trail junctions are signed. Does it make them feel important or what?
Karen
stay together, learn the flowers, go light - from Turtle Island, Gary Snyder
stay together, learn the flowers, go light - from Turtle Island, Gary Snyder
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Karen
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:36 pm I almost forgot!
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Forgot to mention that I won't go to the coast anymore on an overnight trip. I don't want to bother with the bear cannisters OR all the red tape involved these days. There's other places to go. If I do head out that way, I just go for the day.
Karen
stay together, learn the flowers, go light - from Turtle Island, Gary Snyder
stay together, learn the flowers, go light - from Turtle Island, Gary Snyder
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Stefan
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:58 pm |
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I do not hang food becuse bears are scared of me. In actuallity, I usually am in places where bears and large rodents do not want to live. Bears are usually at lakes where fishermen usually like to fish. Hiking to lakes are for whimpy hikers.
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Allison
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:11 pm |
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Thomas, if you are challenging my assertion about where REI Brand manufactures, or whether or not OP makes their goods in prisons, I would kindly suggest you pull your head out of your bottom and do your homework.
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Tom
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:40 pm |
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Apologies but I feel compelled to add to the thread drift.  Just wondering, what's wrong with prison labor?
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Larry
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:12 pm |
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| Karen wrote: | | Forgot to mention that I won't go to the coast anymore on an overnight trip. I don't want to bother with the bear cannisters OR all the red tape involved these days. There's other places to go. If I do head out that way, I just go for the day.
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Karen: I go to the coast for multi-day trips, but it's almost always in Winter. I don't bother with red tape or canisters, I just go. So far I haven't seen any ranger or been asked for my permit. Perhaps I'm on borrowed time though!  One of these days...whammo! Pay the fine, dude!
As far as hanging food, I never do. Always take in the tent or even the bivy bag with me. Perhaps I'm on borrowed time though! One of these days...whammo! Bear in my tent, dude!
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Backpacker Joe
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Miss. Allison, you made a statement,
| Quote: | | Matter of fact, REI isn't right wing per se, but it is far more to the right than I would like it to be |
I simply replied that there was/is nothing conservative (read right wing) about REI. As I've pointed out, I worked there for a time, I know some board members, I know people that work there now.
That place is lefty central!
My head never actually was in my bottom, but how typical for you to talk like that!
TB
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
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Larry
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:28 pm |
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| Karen wrote: | | at least so far. In over 20 years of hiking I've consulted a compass ONCE and I am often off-trail. I don't hang my food though I did when I first began backpacking. On the coast I carry my food with me (once I've established base camp and go day-hiking) and at night put it in the tent with me. My food is dull, though. Mostly freeze-dried and not very aromatic. The racoons are the real threat along the coast -- we watched them once walk a WIRE where a food bag was hanging, UNTIE it, and let it fall to the ground. I don't carry a gun.
Honestly, I don't understand "map heads" all that well. I don't understand why so many hikers will work their butt off to get to a spectacular view and then spend all their time on a summit looking at a map and identifying peaks. Maybe it's just me. I don't care what peaks I'm looking at -- as all mountain scenery is grand. I also don't understand people that stop at every trail junction and whip out their maps -- especially when the trail junctions are signed. Does it make them feel important or what?
Karen |
Karen, I'm in the same lucky boat. Haven't used a compass in 44 yrs of hiking (since age 10.hmmm...am I giving away my age?). I do carry a compass, but I need to see if it still works. It's on a keychain thing. (Just looked...it works!). I do look at the map to find a way up some ridge or whatever, but once on the ridge I don't pull out the map unless it looks like I need to find a thread through some cliffs or other obstacle. Perhaps I'm wasting time and energy, but I usually try to pre-load the route in my mind. Makes for some innovative "wandering"... 
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Allison
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:34 pm |
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I actually know a thing or two about the company too. 
I also know a thing or two about being a liberal. 
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:53 pm |
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Don't prisoners manufacture license plates? That is a good thing. But in Alaska the license plate they make says "The Freedom State". 
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I've been hiking since 1976, and in all that time I've hung my food 3 times. Once in the Enchanted Basin, once on the Quinalt, and once on the Elwah. I have never had a problem. I take my food and put in my sleeping bag stuff sack. Then I put it all in a garbage bag. Then I put it in my backpack. Then I take all my stinky dirty clothes and put them on top of my backpack. Then last but not least I take my pistol and put it on my clothes to hold them down. 
This whole process takes about 3 minutes, and has workrd very well. And if you want a midnight snack you can eat without leaving your tent too. 
