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McPilchuck Wild Bagger
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 856 | TRs | Pics Location: near Snohomish, Wa. |
Legend has it, according to local Native American Indian lore, when a lone cloud is seen hanging over Tahoma (Mt. Rainier), it will rain within a day. I saw that cloud up there today and the report is now calling for rain tonight. Has anybody else ever heard of this weather prediction? Or for that matter any other lore-type weather predictions herein Washington? I am sure some humorist will come up with some cockamamie story and that's OK, but are there any serious ones that hold true for the mountaineering clan that perhaps some don't know about? I myself think it a good idea to be able to decipher clouds formations and what they might mean as far as the coming weather goes.
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polarbear Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 3680 | TRs | Pics Location: Snow Lake hide-away |
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#19 Member
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Sun Feb 10, 2002 3:16 pm
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Funny you should mention it. Saw a lenticular clinging to the top of the Mountain yesterday around 4:00 PM and wondered if it would rain soon or not. It's sprinkling at my house now at 2:00 PM so I guess that meets the 24 hour criteria.
Weather changes following the appearance of a lenticular cloud caps on certain mountains is a pretty well documented.
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Sore Feet Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 6304 | TRs | Pics Location: Out There, Somewhere |
If you can see Mt. Rainier, it will rain within 2 days. If you can't see Mt. Rainier, it is raining.
And how...
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Allison Feckless Swooner
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 12287 | TRs | Pics Location: putting on my Nikes before the comet comes |
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Sun Feb 10, 2002 5:29 pm
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There is some sort of weatherological explanation for the lenticular dealamajigger predicting a change in weather, but not being a scientific cloudologist I do not know what it is. Somebody told me once though, so I know it is true.
It started raining in Ballard at 2 also.
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catwoman Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 888 | TRs | Pics Location: somewhere near Tacoma |
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Sun Feb 10, 2002 6:28 pm
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This is a great topic! I knew about the lenticular cloud over Rainier thing, but I'd love to hear other proven weather predicters! The red skies in morning thing hasn't worked for me. I've read the scientific theory behind it before, but it still rarely holds true, as far as I've seen anyway.
Anybody else have more?
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IBEX Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 117 | TRs | Pics Location: IBEX Lair - Cavalero Hill |
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Sun Feb 10, 2002 6:50 pm
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With words like cockamamie and dealamajigger in the same thread, me thinks I could bend in with this topic.
The pancake shapes clouds that form atop Cascade volcanoes are a good forecaster of incoming weather systems. On the leading edge of the approaching front, the atmosphere is unstable and nearly saturated with moisture. As the air is pushed up over the mountain, the air condenses and forms the linticular clouds. It’s a good bet it will rain within 24 hours, or sooner depending on the wind speed. A similar thing occurs with vapor trails left by passing jets. But, I’m not sure how the Native American Indians dealt with that phenomenon.
Here’s my take on the “ red at night “ thing-a-ma-jobby.
"....what is above knows what is below, but what is below does not know what is above. One climbs, one sees. One descends, one sees no longer, but one has seen...." -Rene Daumel
"....what is above knows what is below, but what is below does not know what is above. One climbs, one sees. One descends, one sees no longer, but one has seen...." -Rene Daumel
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polarbear Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 3680 | TRs | Pics Location: Snow Lake hide-away |
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McPilchuck Wild Bagger
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 856 | TRs | Pics Location: near Snohomish, Wa. |
You guys are awesome! It's no wonder as to why this board is growing so fast. I commend you! Really liked the info related I checked out. One of these days, I'll have to meet all of you, that's if I draw myself away from Snohomish County and Scotty's (NWOG.ORG) haunting me with continueous Mt. (beloved) Pilchuck stories <grin>. I did meet Salish and his friend Ross the other night at the Trail Blazers, plus T.B. aka. Backpacker Joe there a month ago. Further, I guess every once in awhile I come up with a good topic that's of importance or at least has some intrigue. I wonder what else will come up from the others? BTW IBEX, great photo my man, excellent.
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Sore Feet Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 6304 | TRs | Pics Location: Out There, Somewhere |
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Curt Member
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Mon Feb 11, 2002 7:43 am
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Ibex has got it right. I've been using the jet tails thing for a couple years now and it's almost always right on. Big, wide, spreading jet trails means moisture up there and soon down here. From all I've read, he's got the lenticular thing right on as well.
If you really want to get into mountain weather, check out "wow". The guy is great. If you join, you get a laminated cloud chart that is awesome for predicting summit day weather in advance. www.wowweather.com
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salish Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 2322 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
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Mon Feb 11, 2002 9:41 am
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McPilchuck wrote: | You guys are awesome! It's no wonder as to why this board is growing so fast. I commend you! Really liked the info related I checked out. One of these days, I'll have to meet all of you, that's if I draw myself away from Snohomish County and Scotty's (NWOG.ORG) haunting me with continueous Mt. (beloved) Pilchuck stories <grin>. I did meet Salish and his friend Ross the other night at the Trail Blazers, plus T.B. aka. Backpacker Joe there a month ago. Further, I guess every once in awhile I come up with a good topic that's of importance or at least has some intrigue. I wonder what else will come up from the others? BTW IBEX, great photo my man, excellent. |
Hey, it was good meeting you too, Ken. I'll think of you every time I tie on a Skykomish Sunrise! Ross & I are anxious to start participating at TB.
Regards,
Cliff
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My short-term memory is not as sharp as it used to be.
Also, my short-term memory's not as sharp as it used to be.
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kleet meat tornado
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 5303 | TRs | Pics Location: O no they dih ent |
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Tue Feb 12, 2002 9:34 am
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Curt,
I checked out www.wowweather.com and you're right, it's a very cool site. I especially liked his explanation of the Puget Sound Convergence Zone, how it develops and why it exists. I love the collection of mountain condition cameras too.
A fuxk, why do I not give one?
A fuxk, why do I not give one?
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Benjamin Member
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Wed Feb 13, 2002 7:50 pm
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According to local Native American Indian lore, legend has it that if your altimeter/barometer watch indicates a rapid drop in air pressure then inclement weather can be expected. A guideline passed on for generations goes that if the air pressure drops more than .08 in/2.4 mb (a 80ft/24meter increase in elevation reading) within a three hour period, then seek shelter immediately. Expect high winds whenever there is a significant drop in pressure as the surface H and surface L tries to reach an equilibrium.
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Sore Feet Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 6304 | TRs | Pics Location: Out There, Somewhere |
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