[Newt]

That's a good question to ask. Any restricted areas and what are the boundries? Newt

[touron]

Isn't there some granite in Granite Falls they could build this under? I'm for extending the wilderness boundaries to include the Icicle Creek road. Plus I wouldn't mind having the psychics in GF because then I could get a personal consultation instead of having to phone the hotline. I'm really hoping Madame Cleo will be included with the psychic lab deal. If we got the lab but she ended up in the mine shaft in South Dakota, it would be a pyrrhic victory.

[mgd]

touron, read the articles. There is no mention of Cleo. We are going to get stuck with the lab. California or maybe Paul Allen will get Cleo.

[Allison]

[GeoHiker]

I don't see any comment on my question about the railway running all over the place off the Mountain Home road near Boundary Butte. I was told by some Wenatchee locals that it was the beginnings of an amusement park. It's not in the wilderness, but only 2-3 miles from the boundary. Why isn't anyone concerned about this? If it truely is an amusment park, I would think that would cause more strife in the Leavenworthian lifestyle than something 7,000 ft under the ground. Anyone from Leavenworth know what is going on up there?

[Tom]

I'm guessing they're probably more concerned about lots of trucks hauling rocks thru their back yard for a few years than anything.

[brownster145]

Interesting discussion, here. Does anybody--perhaps somebody with a bit of scientific inclination--care to explain what sorts of experiments this lab is going to facilitate and/or why 6000' of overhead rock is requisite? I don't spend a lot of time over in that area, but the quarry for the new runway at Sea-Tac isn't too far from one of my regular fishing haunts and I can sympathize pretty well with anybody who's apprehensive about the prospect of following a train of noisy/slow/stank gravel trucks up and down the highway all summer long. That said, if there is a scientifically good reason to do this, then, well, science is good, and I'm probably for it. Naturally, if it was in my backyard, I'd be up in arms. Thanks, Andrew

[MtnGoat]

they need the shielding from solar radation and low energy cosmic rays for the experiments. otherwise they can't separate what they are trying to measure from the background noise.

[Malachai Constant]

NYT article on Neutrino labs. Can use bug-me-not if not a subscriber.

[MtnGoat]

[wildernessed]

They should extend Alpine Lakes Wilderness to include Tronsen Ridge, Mission Ridge, Red Hill area up to Liberty - Beehive if you ask me. wildernessed

[wildernessed]

If it was safe, if it brought jobs, if it made people happy and rich, that would be irrelevant as it is still infringement upon wilderness and wilderness habitat. It's not about people, it's about leaving alone the natural order to the extent possible. You want concrete put it under Wall St. or The Whitehouse. But it's the nature and historical trend of men to chip away, slowly, but surely destroying everything given time. wildernessed

[MtnGoat]

yeah, why not lock out another bunch of users. they won't mind. as we know, mountain access should be restricted to a subset of all recreation uses, the rest should sit n spin

[Allison]

It's not about restricting access, it's about preserving Wilderness. The primary function of Wilderness is preservation, with recreation being a ways down the list.

[whistlingmarmot]

Then it's still about restricting access. Call it what you want, in the end the access and use are restricted to "preserve" it.