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polarbear Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 3680 | TRs | Pics Location: Snow Lake hide-away |
Outdoor Recreation in America 2003: Recreation's Benefits to Society Challenged by Society's Trends
The objectives of the report:
-measure participation in range of activities
-measure frequency of participation
-determine people's views on outdoor recreation and relation to environment
-investigate interest/participation in volunteerism
-monitor changes in attidudes regarding fees on federal sites
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-participation in recreation is in a downward trend beginning in 2001 and more strongly in 2003
-the drop in frequency of participation is most noteworthy among young adults,
-18 to 29 year olds are now less likely to frequent participants (19%), than those between ages 30 and 44 (24%) and 45 to 59 (22%)
-55% of the 2001 people surveyed visited federal lands in the past 12 months
-21% were interested in volunteering, 24% of these 21% had volunteered in the past year
-of those who visited federal sites, most are willing to pay higher fees, but this willingness has decreased from earlier studies
-recreation participation by families with children is generally above the national average
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Odonata Member
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Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:59 pm
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Hey PB. I think your link is wonky..
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polarbear Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 3680 | TRs | Pics Location: Snow Lake hide-away |
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touron Member
Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 10293 | TRs | Pics Location: Plymouth Rock |
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Sun Jan 25, 2004 3:03 pm
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Sociologists claim there is a correlation between the decline in interest in outdoor activity, and the surge in popularity of an internet game called "Whack the Penguin." People no longer have time to hike as everyone is vying for the high score.
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Touron is a nougat of Arabic origin made with almonds and honey or sugar, without which it would just not be Christmas in Spain.
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kiliki Member
Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Posts: 2324 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
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Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:07 pm
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That report includes things like RV'ing as outdoor recreation (the report is for industry times like boat manufacturers), so I think that people could combine their love for recreation and whack the penguin.
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Odonata Member
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Sun Jan 25, 2004 9:40 pm
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Quote: | Recreational driving |
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Allison Feckless Swooner
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 12287 | TRs | Pics Location: putting on my Nikes before the comet comes |
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Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:22 am
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So what's the relevance of this study to human-powered recreators like ourselves? I didn't read the study, as after reading the list of people involved it seemed like a whole nother kettle of fish.
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WTM Member
Joined: 03 Jul 2003 Posts: 231 | TRs | Pics
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Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:06 am
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Aren't the people behind this report the same ones who provided most of the backing for the Demonstration Fee program?
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Malachai Constant Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 16092 | TRs | Pics Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny |
WTM wrote: | Aren't the people behind this report the same ones who provided most of the backing for the Demonstration Fee program? |
Somebody get a rope
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
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Brain Hates whining
Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 690 | TRs | Pics Location: Hillsboro, OR |
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Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:10 am
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On the selfish side, that means the crowd sizes are shrinking and backcountry solitude won't be as hard to find.
"It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds." Doc Holiday (Val Kilmer) in Tombstone
"It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds." Doc Holiday (Val Kilmer) in Tombstone
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
Quote: | On the selfish side, that means the crowd sizes are shrinking and backcountry solitude won't be as hard to find |
I completely understand that sentiment. The funny thing is, as much as I get out and have gotten out in my adult life, I cant ever remember being disappointed when I did see other people while in the back country.
I'm out there for the experience, and to me other people dont ruin that for me.
Maybe Im that way because where I go I rarely see others anyway.
TB
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
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"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
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kiliki Member
Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Posts: 2324 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
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Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:19 pm
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The report doesn't really address backcountry uses, anyway. It looks at golf and picnicking and jet skiing (though "hiking" is a category, it is one of many).
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jimmymac Zip Lock Bagger
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 3705 | TRs | Pics Location: Lake Wittenmyer, WA |
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Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:04 pm
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Amazing. I never knew I had such a well organized, for-profit lobbying group sharing a bed with land managers "on my behalf!" Where do I send my annual ARC donation? How about automatic payroll deduction? With "public-minded" advocacy groups like these, who needs trailhead car prowlers?
Say what you will about WTA's positions on issues like the MFK. At the very worst, they are furthering the interest of one group of users over the interests of another. ARC seems to have reason to further the interests of their corporate members at the expense of all recreationists.
If I'm wrong on this, let me have it. But at the present, I trust the ARC like I would a cougar following me home from a campfire. Why? I don't know, maybe it's their mentoring program to teach "backward" land managers how to better separate us from more of our money. Or maybe it's their effort to prepare member corporations to privatize public land management... I just have an urge to test the velcro on my wallet pocket around these kinds of industry groups.
"Profound serenity is the product of unfaltering Trust and heightened vulnerability."
"Profound serenity is the product of unfaltering Trust and heightened vulnerability."
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Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 2197 | TRs | Pics
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Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:27 pm
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Backpacker Joe wrote: | Quote: | On the selfish side, that means the crowd sizes are shrinking and backcountry solitude won't be as hard to find |
I completely understand that sentiment. The funny thing is, as much as I get out and have gotten out in my adult life, I cant ever remember being disappointed when I did see other people while in the back country.
I'm out there for the experience, and to me other people don't ruin that for me. |
I could not agree more with these comments. The vast majority of the folks I've run across in the Mtns are cool. Some trips start at popular trailheads and you expect to see people - other trips you don't expect to see anyone and you don't. But no, it wouldn't break my heart if less people got out in the Mtns.
It does seem like there are more people doing harder trips these days. And it seems like there are more climbers doing harder routes - but maybe it is just the access to info now that makes it seem that way.
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kleet meat tornado
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 5303 | TRs | Pics Location: O no they dih ent |
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Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:01 am
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jimmymac wrote: | If I'm wrong on this, let me have it. But at the present, I trust the ARC like I would a cougar following me home from a campfire. |
What's not to trust? Just read the list of environmentally concerned firms below:
American Horse Council
American Motorcyclist Association
Family Campers and RVers
Honda North America
Kampgrounds of America
Motorcycle Industry Council
National Association of RV Parks and Campgrounds
National Marine Manufacturers Association
National Recreation and Park Association
Personal Watercraft Industry Association
PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP
Recreation Vehicle Dealers Association
Recreation Vehicle Industry Association
Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association
Strat@comm
And last but not least: American Association for Nude Recreation
A fuxk, why do I not give one?
A fuxk, why do I not give one?
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