[Cyclopath]

[Tom]

Sounds like you are referring to the distance between the front and rear wheels which might be longer on this style of frame? I ordered a medium which is technically a size small for me at 6' but it actually feels pretty comfortable. I went out and test rode a Specialized Turbo Levo Comp today to compare motor noise. https://www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-levo-comp/p/170517?color=273883-170517 It is almost twice the cost of the X1 and less power, but surprisingly zippy for a 250W (nominal) motor and near silent (I'd say on par with the noise on my BBS01, if not a little quieter). The torque sensing also seemed more refined. I don't think I'll be throwing money at a Turbo Levo, but it gave me a glimpse of what the X1 could have been. I've pretty much decided the X1 is going back due to the loud motor.

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[Randito]

[JPH]

[Cyclopath]

[treeswarper]

You get as much exercise as you want to get. You can adjust the power. This bike This bike gives me more of a workout than the Rad. I guess it is because it is more comfortable to ride and also more like an acoustic bike. The gears seem to matter more. I've never owned such a comfy bike. It is a pleasant surprise. My farthest ride on it so far has been 30 miles and I used about half the battery. I cranked up the power on the way back as I was on one of the busier roads and wanted to get that part over with. I either lock it up while going into stores, or I bring it IN the store if a bike rack is not handy. Luckily, I don't think Omakians are very interested in bikes but I did register it on a site where you can prelist your bike, then if it gets stolen, report it and they already have the serial number and a photo of the bike. Sounds like they've been able to return a few bikes that were on their list. Here is a link. https://project529.com/garage/users/sign_in As far as a workout goes, simply adjust the power assist to where you want it. As a park ranger mentioned, (we were talking about our Rads) he can ride with his kid and if his knees start bothering, he can make it home OK by adjusting the power level or just going with the throttle. Rads have throttles and can be ridden without pedaling. That method drains the battery faster. If you really want a hard workout, get a Rad and turn off the power.

[Tom]

TW, curious how quiet your Bosch motor is? From what I've read the Bosch tend to be on the noisier side. I was very impressed with the Brose motor on the 2020 Specialized Turbo Levo Comp I test rode yesterday. Virtually silent and very smooth delivery. Also, there is no resistance from the motor if you pedal without power.

I think it was Cyclopath asking about whether you can track watts you are putting out. From that review it sounds like you might be able to. Pretty impressive what the apps can do.

[Opus]

I've had a 2018 Specialized Turbo Vado for about a month now. I think it's the same Brose motor that's used in the Levo but with a more city/road style frame and higher gearing. It is definitely quieter than the Bosch motors in the Trek and Cannondale bikes I test rode. It also felt the most natural for shifting to me. Biggest downside is of course the price. I was able to get this one on a clearance sale at Greggs, bringing it down to the same price as the X1. It's definitely not a hardcore trail bike but that's not what I bought it for. It's a car replacement for pretty much everything but going to the mountains. Exercise wise, I think it ended up being a wash for me. I already bike commute every day and use my bike for shorter trips and light grocery runs. Now I'm able to ride further and carry more groceries. I've also biked from Seattle to Renton and back four times now to watch Seahawks games, about 40 miles round trip. I track everything with my Garmin watch and I'm not raising my heart rate that much so it's more of a low-output, long duration type of exercise. Aside from hauling a 50lb bike up three flights of stairs. Too bad about the Luna bike, it seemed really promising. Have you looked at anything from Bulls?

[Cyclopath]

I have tendinitis in my ankle, I can't pedal, and miss riding. I would love to have an ebike right now. I also see a lot of utility for things like groceries. For miles in any direction of downtown, you can walk faster than you can drive during rush hour which is like 2-6 pm. Plus, for anything but groceries, parking is so much easier with a bike than a car. And I'd like to do Three Fingers, but not the road walk.

[Riverside Laker]

Cyclopath, assuming your ankle gets better, you should have little problem with the road up to Three Fingers trailhead. Ree made it nearly the whole way without walking, and I made it all the way. Since you ride a lot, I'd think you can do it without electrickitty.

[treeswarper]

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[Tom]

I don't think it will make a fit person lazy. With fewer excuses not to ride, it gives you more incentive to ride. You can get there faster, you don't have to worry as much about hills, and it's more fun to ride. Just one of many articles: https://www.bicycling.com/news/a28819663/e-bike-fitness-levels-study/ Funniest comment from that aritcle:

[JPH]