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Lowell_Skoog Member
Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Posts: 145 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle, WA |
Last May I joined John and Irene Meulemans and Gary Rose, backcountry skiers with more than fifty years experience each, on a day trip to Artist Point at Mt Baker. We were brought together by a production crew from KIRO-TV in Seattle working on a one-hour special about climate change in the Northwest. For a trip report about our outing, click here.
KIRO-TV has now scheduled the program for Wednesday, Sept. 19 at 9pm on Channel 7 in Seattle. A short blurb about the program can be found on the KIRO-TV website here.
I really don't know what the program will be like, but it should be interesting to see a local presentation of this subject. And there's a good chance the program will include a bit of ski touring as well.
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
Nice to see you again Mr. Skoog. Good report.
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
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Lowell_Skoog Member
Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Posts: 145 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle, WA |
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Scrooge Famous Grouse
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 6966 | TRs | Pics Location: wishful thinking |
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Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:26 am
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Ummmm. ........ What channel is Kiro? (I don't watch a lot of TV)
Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you....... Go and find it. Go!
Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you....... Go and find it. Go!
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AR 724
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 1514 | TRs | Pics Location: Saratoga Passage |
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Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:57 pm
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Can't wait to see what kind of trumped up poo poo they come up with.
...wait...are we just going to hang here or go hiking?
...wait...are we just going to hang here or go hiking?
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Scrooge Famous Grouse
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 6966 | TRs | Pics Location: wishful thinking |
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Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:39 pm
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Hey, man, you don't have to worry about what anybody says. Just wait a few years and you can experience it.
Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you....... Go and find it. Go!
Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you....... Go and find it. Go!
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AR 724
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 1514 | TRs | Pics Location: Saratoga Passage |
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Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:34 pm
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Scrooge wrote: | Hey, man, you don't have to worry about what anybody says. Just wait a few years and you can experience it. |
Nah, these vile people will use any excuse to sell their propaganda. As a society we have put more work into saving the environment than any other before it. We have more forests now than in the last 150 years. No sense on being fools about natural pattern changes. Be alert, not paranoid.
...wait...are we just going to hang here or go hiking?
...wait...are we just going to hang here or go hiking?
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Riverside Laker Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 2818 | TRs | Pics
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arohwed, you have a great point. Too bad they didn't continue logging all the way up to the alpine zone, because we'd have much better views without all the trees. Shucks, in 1860 there were a lot fewer trees around these parts, so it's really a shame about them environmentalists ruining a perfectly good capitalistic system.
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Layback Cascades Expatriate
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 5712 | TRs | Pics Location: Back East |
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Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:52 pm
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Hey Skoog - Saw the show. I thought it was great.
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Scrooge Famous Grouse
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 6966 | TRs | Pics Location: wishful thinking |
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Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:16 pm
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Good photography and lots of good points, but there was too much uncertainty. We're beyond the point of skeptics versus believers. KIRO would have performed a greater public service if it had not left its conclusions open ended.
Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you....... Go and find it. Go!
Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you....... Go and find it. Go!
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Layback Cascades Expatriate
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 5712 | TRs | Pics Location: Back East |
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Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:51 am
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I was on the Nisqually Glacier two weeks ago and saw what looked like a round PVC pipe sticking up in the air in a curved fashion making a semi-circle in the the snow. I thought that it had to be an old tent pole, swallowed up by the glacier and discarded. Now I know that it was a device for measuring glacier depth. Pretty cool.
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Mtn Dog Technohiker
Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 3336 | TRs | Pics Location: Bellevue, WA |
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Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:59 am
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I saw the show and was remarkably disappointed in KIRO's total lack of science on both sides of the issue. They totally ignored the exhaustive work of Singer & Avery on earth's natural 1,500 year warming and cooling cycle but highlighted the infamous and erroneous "hockey stick" graph of CO2 levels which was originally debunked by Canadian researchers McIntyre and McKitrick. They indicated that we need to reduce our carbon footprint but provide no evidence that doing so would have a real impact on global warming, especially given the fact that most of our power supply is already hydrocarbon free.
Footprints on the sands of time will never be made sitting down.
Footprints on the sands of time will never be made sitting down.
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Malachai Constant Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 16093 | TRs | Pics Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny |
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
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CuriousJ Member
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 8 | TRs | Pics
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Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:10 am
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I saw the show last night and it did seem to have the purpose of upsetting viewers rather than educating them. I was surprised, honestly, that KIRO presented such a paranoid point of view rather than being more balanced.
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Malachai Constant Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 16093 | TRs | Pics Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny |
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
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