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PostTue Apr 21, 2015 11:22 am 
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Victoria Heemstra graciously provided this image of Andrews Barn in the Queets Valley, taken in the mid-late 1980s.

A portion of the southwest corner of the structure was still standing in 1988, but the remains were flattened by an NPS trail crew sometime between 1988 and 1991.

Currently all that can be seen of the structure is the southeast corner of the foundation wall - a portion of which peeks out from under a small sitka spruce.

Andrews Barn - Queets Valley - mid-late-1980s - photo courtesy V. Heemstra
Andrews Barn - Queets Valley - mid-late-1980s - photo courtesy V. Heemstra

(see additional photos of Andrews Barn here )

(note: somewhere buried in a box I have a photo of a former girlfriend taken at the southwest corner of the barn in July 1988, at which time there was still yet something which resembled "structure". apparently NPS staff deemed it a hazard - people were using the wood to build fires - and an NPS trail crew knocked down the remains sometime between 1988-1991. both J. Wray and I attempted to confirm actual date without success.)

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PostTue Jun 02, 2015 9:45 am 
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May 2015

15 mile shelter
15 mile shelter
Hyak Shelter
Hyak Shelter
remains of 21 mile shelter
remains of 21 mile shelter

July 2014

Happy Four shelter
Happy Four shelter
glacier meadow shelter
glacier meadow shelter
Olympic Guard station
Olympic Guard station
elk lake shelter
elk lake shelter

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PostTue Jun 02, 2015 9:57 am 
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PostMon Jun 29, 2015 5:31 pm 
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Pelton Shelter, Upper Queets Valley - Spring 2015


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Pelton Creek Shelter - Queets Valley - ONP - 1982 - photo courtesy G. Patton
Pelton Creek Shelter - Queets Valley - ONP - 1982 - photo courtesy G. Patton

Pelton Creek Shelter - Queets Valley - ONP - 1982 - photo courtesy G. Patton

(in the email this was attached to, Gary noted that he wasn't sure if that's him or his cousin standing in the front of the shelter.)

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Gary P. in Juneau had some questions regarding the Tshletshy Creek Shelter, a photo of which can be found on the previous page.

Gary, this is the best I can ferret out:

According to the hand-drawn map in Robert L. Wood's Wilderness Trails of Olympic National Park (First edition © 1970 Mountaineers, Seattle), the shelter was located at an elevation of 1360 feet and appears to be due south of Pelton Peak.

According to Robert L. Woods Olympic Mountains Trail Guide (Second edition © 1991 Mountaineers, Seattle), the Tshletshy Creek Trail was constructed in the 1920s for the Forest Service by George Shaube with a six-man crew. No mention is made of who built the shelter.
Wood places it 9.2 miles from the beginning of the trail, which would be the six-mile point along the Queets River Trail. (There was an orange metal tag nailed to a small spruce there - immediately across the river from Smith Place - the tag is on the north side of the tree.)

According to Jacilee Wray's River by the Sea - An Ethnohistory of the Queets River Valley (published Oct. 19, 2014 by NPS), the Tshletshy Creek Shelter "was built by George Shaube in the 1920's. It was located where the Tshletshy Creek drops down into the first bottom at the head of the canyon about twelve to fifteen miles up from the Queets. Sometime after 1953 a logjam caused a flood to wash it away (Marshall 1975)." (pp. 336)

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I have both old 7.5 and 15-minute topos, but they're buried in the other room. But I don't need to look at the map to be able to say that I would defer to Wood insofar as the distance stated; the Reed Marshall interviews do contain in places errata and contradictions.

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PostSat Aug 27, 2016 9:04 am 
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Wilder Shelter with sprinklers 2016:

Source: https://www.facebook.com/Olympic-National-Park-Olympic-National-Forest-Fire-Information-831205013596015/

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PostThu Sep 01, 2016 9:53 pm 
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Recent pic of the North Fork Shelter (similar to the ones GGW posted back on page 9)



A few more here

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PostFri Sep 02, 2016 8:03 am 
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meck, that was one of my favorite hikes going up the NF Sol Duc with Goats Gone Wild. Last time we saw each other we laughed about wading the cold river and all the potty mouthing involved since it was mid-October.

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PostSat Sep 03, 2016 8:33 pm 
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I worked on the Quilcene RD for a couple of summers back in the mid 50s. During that time I visited several shelters, lookouts, and other buildings on the district. They included:
Boulder shelter at head of the Dungeness,
What was left of the lookout on Mt. Townsend,
The last building standing at Tull City,
The last building standing at Tubal Cain mine,
Mt. Walker lookout,
Mt Jupiter lookout,
Shelter on south shore of Lower Lena Lake,
Old cabin at Sink Lake,
Guard stations on Dose, Hamma Hamma, and Duckabush,
Old CCC camp on Penny Creek Road outside of Quilcene (crew quarters in '54),
Renovated horse barn outside of Quil. (crew quarters in '55),
Ranger station and associated buildings,
Could anyone give me an update as to the status of some of these old structures? If Still standing? or if not when was their demise and the cause?
Thanks.
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PostSat Sep 03, 2016 10:05 pm 
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@ Dick B:  I've been to what I believe is the site of many of these over the last 8 years.  Here's what I've seen:
1. Boulder Shelter - still there
2. Townsend - No human structures left on top except for some old steel(?) cabling
3. Tull City - Only a few stacked logs forming a rough square are left
4. Tubal Cain - Maybe a few logs in rough square.  Even the old mine cart had been pretty beaten/corroded to pieces last time I was there.
5. Mt walker Lookout - The only human structures (aside from the road and some fence work) are the old wood outhouses.
6. Mt Jupiter - no structures remain on top
7. Lower Lena Lake shore - hmm don't know (not sure if I've ever been to the site of where it was).  The only structures that I'm aware of are the pit toilets and metal fire pits.
8. Sink Lake - No cabin that I'm aware of, but there is a Shelter there
9. Guard Stations - Dose is still there (though the road is washed out 5 miles before the camp ground). Not sure where the Hamma Hamma and Duck stations were but there are a few older FS cabins near both roads.
10. Old CCC camp on Penny Creek Road - I don't know
11. Horse Barn outside Quilcene - not sure where this was

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PostSun Sep 04, 2016 3:18 pm 
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Dick, I'm sure several of us would be interested in what you might remember about the Lena Lake shelter and the ranger station on the Dosewallips.

Lower Lena Lake was home of Boy Scout Camp Cleland, established in 1927.  Ira Spring wrote, in his "100 Classic Hikes" book, "This was Ira's summer country of Boy Scout years, starting in 1931.  Camp Cleland had eight patrol cabins, several staff buildings, a large cookhouse, a water system, six wooden rowboats and an eight-hole outhouse.  Many are the golden memories of that basecamp, its traces obliterated by time."  USFS maps show two trail shelters existed at Lena, one near or perhaps part of the camp, and one on the north shore.  In addition, there was a satellite Camp Hilligoss shelter at Upper Lena Lake, located near its inlet from Milk Lake. 
scouts at Lena Lake
scouts at Lena Lake
Putvin cabin at Upper Lena Lake
Putvin cabin at Upper Lena Lake

USFS built several ranger or guard stations on the Dosewallips in the 1920s and '30s, including Corrigenda, Miner's Creek, Muscott, Dose Meadows and Honeymoon Meadows, as well as several trail and road work camps (Jupiter, Gamm Creek, Ninemile, Tenmile, Elkhorn and Happy Camps) and trail shelters.  Some of these sites can still be located.  Might you remember which of these you worked at?

I did go search from Jack "Whiskers" Conrad's cabin site near Sink Lake, but couldn't locate it.  The Sink Lake Shelter survives, thanks to maintenance by Friends of Olympic Trail Shelters.

Some other photos you might enjoy from USFS.
Quilcene CCC at Penny Creek Camp
Quilcene CCC at Penny Creek Camp
Mt. Townsend lookout
Mt. Townsend lookout

We have lost so many - nearly all - of the historic structures in Olympic NF and NP.  Your memories of them are valued, and the very few which survive are all the more significant to us.

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PostSun Sep 04, 2016 6:05 pm 
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Meck & Rod F: Thanks for the response regarding old Quilcene structures. I have some pictures I would like to forward to you. Rod, I sent you some pics some time ago which you posted for me. I still haven't taken the time to try to figure out how to do myself. If both would send your email addresses to me at "landsurveyor939@hotmail.com" I can also send you some narratives about what I remember from those many years ago. Anyhow I have pics of the following: Mt. Townsend LO as a shell, Tull City, Mt Walker LO, Jupiter LO, Corrigenda GS, old Quil ranger station, and maybe some more if I can dig them up. Photos are taken from slides so the quality is not the best.
Regarding Lena Lake shelter. As I remember it was on the SE side of the lake near the out let. We had a hellava beer party there one night after clearing the trail in from the road.
I recall the CCC camp consisted of 2 remaining buildings. On the right side, going up the road, was the crew quarters, and the left (south side) was the cook shack. Both buildings were pretty well run down, and I think were abandoned at the end of the summer of '54.
I so happen to be camping with my old buddy from back in those days. He spent several summers at Corrigenda so we will be swapping stories of those days. His first posting with the FS was at Dry Creek on the south shore of Lake Cushman. He has a humorous account of his time there. I will ask him to share it with you if you are interested.
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PostSun Sep 04, 2016 6:12 pm 
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Dick B:

Thank you very much.
Your contributions are greatly appreciated and are invaluable.
The National Park Service and National Forest Service weren't very good about documenting structures until very late in the game.
Archival photos and anecdotal oral histories are the de facto history.
Any and all photos of old structures (including the hitching rails and outhouses) and stories are all little pieces of a great big puzzle, and all will be appreciated.

Thanks again.

Brian

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PostMon Sep 05, 2016 3:41 pm 
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Dick B. generously shares these photos taken in 1955.
Mt. Jupiter Lookout
Mt. Jupiter Lookout
Mount Walker Lookout
Mount Walker Lookout
Quilcene Ranger Station
Quilcene Ranger Station
Quilcene Ranger Station
Quilcene Ranger Station
Tubal Cain mine
Tubal Cain mine
Tull City
Tull City
Mount Townsend Lookout
Mount Townsend Lookout
Fire crew headed to Silver Lakes
Fire crew headed to Silver Lakes
fire crew at Boulder Shelter
fire crew at Boulder Shelter
Corrigenda Guard Station (Dosewallips)
Corrigenda Guard Station (Dosewallips)

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