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PostSun Jun 21, 2009 5:33 pm 
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Interesting info, I read this book in one of my AIS classes, but had forgotten this tidbit.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ww8odDD86oAC&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=Ele-+quas+Tern&source=bl&ots=2zC9SsJAQm&sig=0NcNehq6Pxc3JWe-tXxFN10YF_w&hl=en&ei=BdE-StOSH4TOsgOwiuW6Dw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1
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PostMon Jun 22, 2009 9:18 am 
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and now is the perfect time to segue into who hikes alone, and who's imagination is higher than a crack whore on saturday night.
thanks for the jimmys, guys.
fffff####@@%&* and f.



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what a horrible story.
im destined for a stew pot and cackling wee men? I hike alone! I hate wee men. I hate them all. they can smell fear. bear spray will kill a few, but theres hundreds, all hungry....all cackling that creepy f'ing laugh and scuttling about with those stupid short legs.
horrible.stupid.dolls.  Im gonna torch mine right there on the trail, defy them all right before getting shot by a thousand mini arrows....
f.and f.
why did i read this post.....
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PostMon Jun 22, 2009 11:00 am 
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My sentiments exactly. . . why did I read the post? Figuratively following the sounds of laughing children into the deep woods?

Anyway, I did not ever hear of Stick Indians until I read this thread last night. This morning, I picked up my latest Tom Robbins book called "Wild Ducks Flying Backward: The Short Writings of Tom Robbins." There is a poetry section, in which I discovered a poem called "Stick Indians!"  eek.gif  I'd reproduce the whole thing here except I don't know how copyright laws work, so here is just the last stanza:

"The Stick Indian casino
is in your skull
--and you've already lost."
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PostMon Jun 22, 2009 11:28 am 
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@tokyo tessie awesome. I read alot of Robert Service.....sounds like i need to read ducks flying backwards.
thx for the tip.
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PostTue Jun 23, 2009 4:16 pm 
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bonobo wrote:
Interesting info, I read this book in one of my AIS classes, but had forgotten this tidbit.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ww8odDD86oAC&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=Ele-+quas+Tern&source=bl&ots=2zC9SsJAQm&sig=0NcNehq6Pxc3JWe-tXxFN10YF_w&hl=en&ei=BdE-StOSH4TOsgOwiuW6Dw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

Nice find.

I was on a night hike a couple of weeks ago and someone asked for scary stories. I told them what I could remember from this thread.  I have to get the story details down a little better for the next opportunity.
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PostThu Jun 25, 2009 9:39 pm 
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Kbatku,

I'm American Indian, and I have a few thoughts about this. I'm not saying any of this as though I'm some kind of authority. Let's just say it might be a different angle than most.

I think it's a local spiritual thing. If people in a certain area sometimes feel they've experienced something similar and weird (like the stick indian thing), then:

A) There might really be some spirits in the area who like to mess with us living folk. I have heard no similar story up north where I'm from, so it's definitely not some universal Indian thing. These spirits stick to the general area that they call home, possibly for hundreds of years now. Maybe they're human in origin, in which case their thoughts and desires have gotten a little twisted since moving on. Maybe they're not human, and their alien thoughts & intentions get misperceived by us. Either way, they're creepy.

Or...

B) Sometimes, people experience something their brain doesn't quite categorize as "normal": an odd sound in the wind, a strange movement in the corner of an eye. People in a given area might circulate some folklore that roughly happens to fit the experience, and upon hearing the folklore, the person bends their experience to fit; similarities are reinforced, and differences are glossed over. With time, memory says that the experience fits the myth perfectly. Given enough time, the person loses all doubt that they experienced what the folklore says. The folklore is reinforced for another generation.

I've seen enough weird things to know that spirits are real and that modern man's arrogant view of the world is incomplete. We like to think we know the rules of reality and that there are no mysteries. It just ain't so. I'm rootin' for the stick indians.  wink.gif

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PostFri Aug 24, 2012 8:20 pm 
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My friend and I had run in with three of these "stick indians" in the mountains in between Winthrop and Mazama washington about four years ago, at first we thought that they must have been aliens, but then maybe two years later had talked with a Native, who said they had to be Stick indians. Dont much feel like going into details, but they where they same Short,greyish, long armed figures that have been talked about above. Just wanted it to be made aware, and documented.
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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 7:03 am 
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I have been researching any information I can find on the Tsiatko or Stick Indians because they could be more than just a Native American myth. From what I've been researching and learning, this could be one of many mythological creatures that connect to the physical traits, abilities, and behaviors of one creature that has been reported in multiple areas of the world. Now you all will probably start saying a bunch of stuff about me when you read this, but I believe that the Tsiatko are a native american ideology of the Slenderman. Now before you all start saying things against me, hear me out. The Tsiatko, as I said, are not the only creatures I have been studying. There are many creatures, for example the Ala demon from Bulgarian, Macedonian, and Serb folklore as well as the Tulpa and the Bakasura from Hindu text. I've studied their traits and behaviors and managed to cross reference all of them back to the traits and behaviors of the Slenderman. The behaviors and traits I am speaking of is the association with children and their extreme heights.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 7:58 am 
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Ok I have a question.  Before I ask it let me state that I am neither avowing nor disavowing their existence.  I would have to see it or be given very strong proof.

That being said-  If these things are so bad, so evil and dangerous- why keep them so hush hush? A secret? Wouldn't you want to warn people? Maybe provide some useful info like how to stop them when encountered deep in the forest on a lonely mountain in the middle of the night.  For instance - will a 357 work on them or do I need some type of Holy water?  What?

Seriously though- why not warn people if they are so dangerous and evil?  Doesn't add up.
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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 8:04 am 
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That's the point - Indians DID and DO warn their children vigorously about Sticks, but it's not something you sit around and joke about or talk idly about because they take the whole subject very seriously.
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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 9:11 am 
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If you go out in the woods today,
You'd better not go alone.
It's lovely out in the woods today,
But safer to stay at home...

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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 9:55 am 
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kbatku wrote:
That's the point - Indians DID and DO warn their children vigorously about Sticks, but it's not something you sit around and joke about or talk idly about because they take the whole subject very seriously.

Thanks for the answer.  Hope I didn't come across as flippant or disrespectful to anyones beliefs.  I was curious and it seemed that the  the prevalent beliefs were to be secretive- or is it as you said- not something to joke about.  Makes sense.
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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 12:45 pm 
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Malachai Constant wrote:
It is never a good idea to ridicule that which you do not understand. Some folks learning may be less but their experience greater, just sayin tongue.gif

This. We still have much to learn.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 3:14 pm 
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Schenk wrote:
If you go out in the woods today,
You'd better not go alone.
It's lovely out in the woods today,
But safer to stay at home...

...so why "the woods" in the above mentioned context?

Why not the prairie, or the desert, the beach, etc? Sounds to me like a proper grounding in one's spiritual life is in order here...

However, I *really* like this thread. Most intriguing. Reminds me of the episodes of "Mysterious Universe". Fun to listen to, indeed.

And forgive me, kbatku for if I sound as though I'm ridiculing, for I am not. I believe there are far more things that I don't know than I do...

For the "kids in the forest" sounds, I going with the coyote pups bit....but back to the stick figurine. For THAT I have NO explanation. None.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 3:21 pm 
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I was quoting the poem "Teddy Bear's Picnic"
Not really related to this topic except to illustrate many legends are just meant to keep children in line, and to behave, and not run off unless accompanied by an adult.

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