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Tag Man side hiller
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 602 | TRs | Pics Location: Where the roots all twist... |
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:21 am
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ActionBetty Im a dirty hippie!
Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 4807 | TRs | Pics Location: kennewick, wa |
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ActionBetty
Im a dirty hippie!
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:30 pm
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Bryan wrote: | I prefer to drive as fast as I possibly can doing rally style turns around the corners as I bomb right down the middle of the road. And if I see oncoming traffic I make sure to put my brights on after dark so I can blind them to the point they drive off the road and into a ditch. |
"If you're not living good, you gotta travel wide"...Bob Marley
"If you're not living good, you gotta travel wide"...Bob Marley
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MikeBeebe Seeking the Ur
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 279 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle, Washington |
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:56 pm
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My biggest concern on mountain roads isn't bad drivers -- they can be avoided -- but DRUNK drivers.
In the mountains of California, it's almost a requisite to barrel down single-lane dirt roads liquored as Bacchus, and damn any hikers, bicyclist, equestrians or more sober motorists who have the unmitigated gal to be in the way. Car campers (and no dis to car campers, because I am one) seem to think it's legal to drive drunk as long as the road is unpaved and slanted vertically.
The situation got markedly worse once the "monster truck" craze started. Ego, bravado and booze are a dodgy mix with stationary folks, but throw in a huge truck, a belief that laws don't count in forested areas, and an attitude of entitlement, and a simple walk along a mountain road becomes a take-your-life-in-your-hands act of daring. Even if they don't strike you outright, you might find yourself dodging thrown beer bottles or other garbage.
Go slow, turn your lights on, and watch how straight the other motorist is driving -- and if they're not, GET OVER FAST!
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taildragger Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 190 | TRs | Pics Location: Between NY and OK, or the PCT |
MikeeB
You just need one of these, if they hit you while drunk, they'll only hurt themselves
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Toonces unleashed
Joined: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 2401 | TRs | Pics Location: On the pavement, thinking about the government |
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:31 pm
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taildragger is that available in a hybrid?
If you show fear, a monkey will bully you.
If you show fear, a monkey will bully you.
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taildragger Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 190 | TRs | Pics Location: Between NY and OK, or the PCT |
Toonces wrote: | taildragger is that available in a hybrid? |
Technically, yes it is
Instead of using kinetic breaking, I suggest turning off the rig, shifting into neutral, and fly down the mountain GA style
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Randonnee Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2008 Posts: 73 | TRs | Pics Location: Wenatchee Mountains |
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The problem with a complaint like this, is the violators are not likely members/readers of NWhikers.
-Yes, I realize that. I chose this Forum in hopes of starting a discussion. Thanks for all of the discussion.
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I heard a scurrilous rumor, though, that you have been seen skiing with someone from Seattle, and that you liked each other enough to consider doing it more than once!
-I have no recollection of such an event and will neither confirm nor deny that such is possible. It has now been two ski seasons since I have even exposed myself to any WA volcano to the west of Mt. Adams nor have I set a ski on the Crest or to the west of the Crest.
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I was just up at Hart's Pass and talked to the Forest Service before going up as the road is one lane in many places. They recommend that the heavier vehicle stay away from the edge of the road (1000'+ dropoff)... it was clear that in many places the edge of that road could not handle the weight of a larger vehicle. Seems like common sense when driving 12,000 pounds of vehicle and camper. Courtesy, right of way, and all the other rules that people come up with need to be tempered with a little common sense and situational awareness IMHO.
-It was not explicit in my opening diatribe, but the humorous and annoying/ pathetic part of the scenario was that there were two small cars, maybe Prius or something, pulling in on the wrong side, appearing nearly full of hikers. The road is rock, well built, the edge will not give way. My Jeep was actually much larger but I just easily cruised by in 2nd gear high range, on the wrong-side edge. I avoided eye contact with what I think was a couple of Prius loads of 206ers. I avoided looking for the sake of world peace and the resisting of the unrestrained flight of my third digit and other tempting redneckian 509er behavior. In trying to temper my behavior in my posting I avoided saying that anyone should stay off of a mountain road, as it is their right as much as mine, but that is the natural thought when one observes such behavior.
Yes, as a matter of fact one had better clear out of the way- to a legitimate pull-off that allows a full lane for the truck- for a fully-loaded truck going downhill. With the decimation of the timber industry some may have not been exposed to logging trucks and may not know that a fully loaded truck (even a horse rig) may not be able to stop in time- period- when coming downhill.
Driving rules and Law are not flexible or subject to guidance from one's mood-ring, attitude, or misguided thinking. Bla, bla, I am sure to hear more about how one's selfish will or self-important opinion overrides common courtesy and intelligent behavior to benefit the common good. Quoting the USFS is no indication of any superior knowledge or skill, that USFS person is equally likely to be as knowledgeble as a tourist, since they may be themselves basically a tourist with a seasonal low-paying job, with 15 years on the job.
Quote-Animals come out of the brush on both sides of the road, so, by driving down the middle, I stand the best chance of not pancaking a rabbit, or having a buck crash through my windshield, or careening off a cliff avoiding a fox.
-Um, what the? The only place that I see animals get hit is on a highway. If one cannot avoid an elk when driving 15 or 20 MPH on a mountain road, well, go back to kindergarten and practice on the push-trike and then go pass a driving test when of legal age...Dude, the animals never jump in front of me, so they just must have it in for you- maybe ya better stay out of the scary woods : )}
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joker seeker
Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 7953 | TRs | Pics Location: state of confusion |
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:50 pm
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Randonnee wrote: | Quote:
I heard a scurrilous rumor, though, that you have been seen skiing with someone from Seattle, and that you liked each other enough to consider doing it more than once!
-I have no recollection of such an event and will neither confirm nor deny that such is possible. It has now been two ski seasons since I have even exposed myself to any WA volcano to the west of Mt. Adams nor have I set a ski on the Crest or to the west of the Crest. |
I won't tell your Earl ski partner (and near miss on Adams) you're dissin' him . He wouldn't mind anyway. Says not to worry about how you come off online (same as me ). I love my FR10s by the way. Probably just don't know any better.
I have yet to see one of those loaded logging trucks heading at me, but my dad saw plenty of them on a fishing trip in the '80s, and his description has left me cautious to this day. I sometimes wonder how many hikers I see out there don't realize that those logging roads are, well, logging roads.
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Schroder Member
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 6719 | TRs | Pics Location: on the beach |
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Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:29 am
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joker wrote: | I sometimes wonder how many hikers I see out there don't realize that those logging roads are, well, logging roads. |
I was on top of Lookout Mountain and a guy with a southern drawl was referring to them as "fire roads". First time I ever heard that. Back in the 60's I'd encounter a logging truck on almost every road I drove - haven't seen one in 20 years now.
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straydog slave to a monolith
Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 1456 | TRs | Pics Location: North Bend |
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straydog
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Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:15 pm
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Randonnee wrote: | Quote:
Driving rules and Law are not flexible or subject to guidance from one's mood-ring, attitude, or misguided thinking. Bla, bla, I am sure to hear more about how one's selfish will or self-important opinion overrides common courtesy and intelligent behavior to benefit the common good. Quoting the USFS is no indication of any superior knowledge or skill, that USFS person is equally likely to be as knowledgeble as a tourist, since they may be themselves basically a tourist with a seasonal low-paying job, with 15 years on the job. |
Dude... I think you missed what I was saying. Wait... checking my mood ring to see if there's a rule to be broken here...
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Randonnee Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2008 Posts: 73 | TRs | Pics Location: Wenatchee Mountains |
Dude...good sense of humor, anyway : )}
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Alpine Balding Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 59 | TRs | Pics Location: Snohomish,Wa |
Randonnee wrote: | Quote: I avoided eye contact with what I think was a couple of Prius loads of 206ers. |
Ha!, fooled you ,Im a 425er
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MtnGoat Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 11992 | TRs | Pics Location: Lyle, WA |
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Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:01 pm
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still means a 206er. We aint as dumb as we look.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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Alpine Balding Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 59 | TRs | Pics Location: Snohomish,Wa |
Actually ,I love Eastern Washington ,I plan on retiring there
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Alpine Balding Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 59 | TRs | Pics Location: Snohomish,Wa |
Probably the Palouse area
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