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PostFri Mar 06, 2020 1:18 pm 
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RandyHiker wrote:
There are no 100% effective measures ...

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Part of the issue is that we try to put our mind into the head of the theives to guess what they are thinking. There are some obvious things to do, but many theives are not that logical and don't think like the rest of us. And different theives have different things they are looking for.  I have known a few people with trailhead beaters, who left the doors unlocked, and STILL had their windows smashed. And some don't even want what is inside, but go for the gass, cutting the gas line and draining the tank. Doesn't matter what kind of vehicle you have in that case, they want the gas. Just a quick observation, the theives that took those wheels and tires put in a lot of risky work and effort for relatively little payoff.

We just try to leave nothing important inside, including the registration. I often leave a change of clothes, some water, and a towel. I have never had a problem at a trailhead, though I have returned to the TH to find a vehicle burglarized just next to me. I don't spend too much time trying to figure out criminals. I just use a bit of common sense precautions and go have some fun.

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PostFri Mar 06, 2020 4:18 pm 
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I have known a few people with trailhead beaters, who left the doors unlocked, and STILL had their windows smashed.

Yeah -- a friend of mine used to live a few blocks off of Aurora in North Seattle during the late '80s and early '90s.    Car prowling at that time there was so bad that they needed to not only leave the car unlocked, but windows rolled down and driver's door propped open to keep window smashing at bay.  Obviously the radio was long gone.    I think he also had some sort of heavy duty battery tie down with theft resistant bolts securing it -- as well as a "club" securing the driver's wheel.

He was so glad when he sold that house.   Location, Location, Location.
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PostFri Mar 06, 2020 6:12 pm 
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We came back a few hours later and noticed that every car on the block had all of the passenger side glass smashed out,

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PostTue Mar 10, 2020 12:53 pm 
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Barlow Pass/Weeden Lake Trailhead- lots of smashed windows.
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PostTue Mar 10, 2020 1:02 pm 
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Seattle_Wayne wrote:
Barlow Pass/Weeden Lake Trailhead- lots of smashed windows.

The gate is open at Deer Creek? Barlow pass would be an excellent place for a stakeout. TH's right on the road are the worst for obvious reasons.

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PostTue Mar 10, 2020 3:58 pm 
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Seattle_Wayne wrote:
Barlow Pass/Weeden Lake Trailhead- lots of smashed windows.

When did this happen Seattle_Wayne?  Were you affected or did you happen upon it?  Sorry to hear this.  frown.gif    ~z
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PostWed Mar 11, 2020 4:33 am 
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RichP, that sucks! I never thought that area would have that crap going on!

Neek how about having a place as a home base to store gear such as a hotel or Airbnb? I know an unlikely option....

Seems like yesterday talking about this very topic with NomadicAlpinistPiscator.

No easy answer.

One thing's for certain, one bad move and you'll be experiencing a week of the northwest through a plastic and duct tape covered window.
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PostWed Mar 11, 2020 7:53 am 
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Neek how about having a place as a home base to store gear such as a hotel or Airbnb? I know an unlikely option....

It's a good idea and can sometimes work well, but when you're car camping and day hiking the logistics can be difficult.  I'll just bring a big pack and carry everything of value - "training weight".  Actually very little chance of doing any traveling next month anyway, given how things are going.  Speaking of which, I wonder how that will affect crime rates - potentially more desperate people on the streets as they lose their jobs and support systems, kids out of school and bored, etc.
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PostWed Mar 11, 2020 5:53 pm 
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PostThu Mar 12, 2020 9:25 am 
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I think it was in the late 80's.  I went into the Foss lakes and there was a person in a small travel trailer camped out in the parking lot near the trail entering the woods.  I spoke with him and he said he was there watching the trail head to prevent theft.  I wonder how well that worked?

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PostThu Mar 12, 2020 12:55 pm 
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Zephyr,

Last year around August, I believe. I saw a trip report on WTA where a hiker took pictures of three cars- all with smashed windows. (Gothic Basin). No, I was not affected.
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PostThu Mar 12, 2020 1:00 pm 
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Chief Joseph wrote:
The gate is open at Deer Creek?

Not sure. There was a trip report on WTA from last year I saw with card with smashed windows. It looked like malicious mischief because it didn't appear anything was stolen.
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PostThu Mar 12, 2020 1:23 pm 
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williswall wrote:

The unaddressed concern with this product is the safety feature it negates: safe and quick escape from a damaged vehicle.  Maybe they should test it at NASCAR first.

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PostThu Mar 12, 2020 7:09 pm 
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d. inscho wrote:
The unaddressed concern with this product is the safety feature it negates: safe and quick escape from a damaged vehicle.

No, that's been addressed if you start looking at these products. One just has to think statistically: what are your chances of being caught in a vehicle in the water or on fire etc, vice smash and grab violations. Only the individual can determine the risk vice rewards. Personally, I think I would apply the film to deter theft if/when I am leaving a vehicle in suspect places consistently.

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PostThu Mar 12, 2020 7:34 pm 
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https://www.kxro.com/aberdeen-man-sentenced-after-series-of-crimes-at-national-parks/

An Aberdeen man was sentenced after victimizing more than 40 hikers and campers in National Parks across western Washington.

In a release from The United States Department of Justice, 41-year-old Michael Wayne Pickering was sentenced in U.S. District Court in Tacoma to two years in federal prison to follow a 25 month state prison term.

US Attorney Brian Moran says that the local man prowled at least four dozen cars at more than seven different trailheads and parking lots stretching from Mount Rainier National Park to Third Beach on the Pacific coast, to trailheads in the interior of the Olympic Peninsula’s national park and forest.
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