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Chief Joseph
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PostSun Aug 25, 2019 8:59 pm 
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Lol ..big deal, he pulled his sidearm out just in case, better to be prepared than not.

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PostSun Aug 25, 2019 11:14 pm 
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Exactly Tom

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PostMon Aug 26, 2019 12:12 am 
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I don't have any issues with people packing a personal side-arm on a trail; given some of the crazy stuff that's been happening to hikers these years, I've often wondered whether hiking alone is even safe anymore, especially for women; but I guess I'm not motivated or scared enough (given the odds) to get one.

But FWIW re the dog situation: my first response would never be to pull a gun on someone's unleashed pet on a trail.  Maybe those who pack and are sufficiently unfamiliar with canines that the first response to a dog running up a trail is to pull the gun out, perhaps having a  "plan B"along - a canister of capsacin (there are small ones that fit in the palm of your hand) or an air horn should be considered.  Even Kwai-chang Caine used his most lethal moves last, Grasshopper.   ninja.gif   Just sayin'.   wink.gif

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PostMon Aug 26, 2019 7:53 am 
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Malachai Constant wrote:
I would not mind running into a person open carrying on a trail a hundred times less than an unleashed pit bull.

Tom wrote:
I think he was saying the risk of an unleashed pitbull harming you is 100 times more. Sounds about right.

I don't mind open carry either. When someone draws the situation changes, I think we all agree on that, and that is what happened here. When someone targets another person or their animal...

My original reason for responding stands. XRP demonstrated irresponsibility as a firearm owner. Then he decided to double down by flexing about it when challenged, wonder how things would have gone in the heat of the moment on the trail? Be safe out there!
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PostMon Aug 26, 2019 2:42 pm 
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Malachai Constant wrote:
Exactly Tom

Works for me.  up.gif

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PostTue Aug 27, 2019 2:52 am 
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I conceal carry at all times.  I always open carry on the trail for quicker access and get a ton of uncertain or fearful looks. The looks always surprise me, you are deep in the mountains alone, if there is anywhere to carry a gun its in the woods.  Only have drawn it once in all my years of hiking and that was due to an unseen but agitated animal about 10 yards off the trail.  Doubt I would ever draw on a dog coming up the trail but I guess it would depend on the situation.

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PostFri Aug 30, 2019 7:51 pm 
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interesting how different some states are. When I used to go down to Phoenix to work at the Palo Verde Nuclear plant I would always stay with my mom in Apache Junction for three or four weeks after the job was done.  During that time I would hike in the Superstition Mountains four five days a week.  In well over 80 hiking trips in the Arizona desert, only once did I come across another hiker who WASNT armed!  In all my years here in Washington.  In thousands of hiking trips Ive only once seen another hiker armed.  LOL.  I carry concealed at all times, mountains included.  In the past I carried open in the out of doors but too many times I scared people, and that's not what I want to do.

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PostFri Aug 30, 2019 9:55 pm 
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Backpacker Joe wrote:
interesting how different some states are. When I used to go down to Phoenix to work at the Palo Verde Nuclear plant I would always stay with my mom in Apache Junction for three or four weeks after the job was done.  During that time I would hike in the Superstition Mountains four five days a week.  In well over 80 hiking trips in the Arizona desert, only once did I come across another hiker who WASNT armed!  In all my years here in Washington.  In thousands of hiking trips Ive only once seen another hiker armed.  LOL.  I carry concealed at all times, mountains included.  In the past I carried open in the out of doors but too many times I scared people, and that's not what I want to do.

Well, Tom, some people are easily scared, for no rational reason. Just sayin'.  winksmile.gif

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PostSat Aug 31, 2019 8:21 pm 
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Dave Workman wrote:
Backpacker Joe wrote:
interesting how different some states are. When I used to go down to Phoenix to work at the Palo Verde Nuclear plant I would always stay with my mom in Apache Junction for three or four weeks after the job was done.  During that time I would hike in the Superstition Mountains four five days a week.  In well over 80 hiking trips in the Arizona desert, only once did I come across another hiker who WASNT armed!  In all my years here in Washington.  In thousands of hiking trips Ive only once seen another hiker armed.  LOL.  I carry concealed at all times, mountains included.  In the past I carried open in the out of doors but too many times I scared people, and that's not what I want to do.

Well, Tom, some people are easily scared, for no rational reason. Just sayin'.  winksmile.gif

Thanks Dave and I don't disagree, but I really don't want to ruin anyones outdoor experience if I don't have to.

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