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PostWed Oct 07, 2009 11:13 am 
IMV, the use of the term "myth" in the title of this thread was intended to provoke.  Or maybe it is a clever projection, not unlike push polling where a pollster asks "If you knew that Candidate X had a secret gay lover who was on the public payroll, would you vote for Candidate X?," while the pollster lacks any good faith evidence of a gay lover or a spiff.

Everyone who contributes to this thread, including me, is feeding a troll, IMV.

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PostWed Oct 07, 2009 7:22 pm 
Not only is the Cascade Mountain snowpack increasing as we move into the 21st century, but our Puget Sound climate has also experienced cooling over the past 20 years:

10-year annual mean temperatures (deg F):

------------  Olympia  SeaTac
1989-1998    50.7        53.0
1999-2008    50.1        52.2
Difference     -0.6        -0.8

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PostWed Oct 07, 2009 8:25 pm 
And the cycle begins again...  Wash, rinse, repeat...

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PostWed Oct 07, 2009 9:29 pm 
All I know is 20 years ago the Lynch Glacier ran into Peasoup Lake and there was a Lower Hinman Glacier where Lepel Lake now is frown.gif

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PostWed Oct 07, 2009 10:19 pm 
We going to believe weatherdude, or our own lyin' eyes?  baaa.gif

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PostThu Oct 08, 2009 1:01 am 
20 years ago, people came from all over the world to visit the Paradise Ice Caves, in what is now a barren, rocky valley. ...... And does anybody remember "black ice", that used to be a winter driving bane in Pugetopolis?

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PostThu Oct 08, 2009 3:25 am 
Scrooge maybe the less black ice has to do with the prolonged winter warm period as noted in the set of graphs that weatherman brought to our attention last year.
And though you may not characterize the last decade as continued warming in Puget Sounds, it would be more apt so say it has continued to be quite warm versus the historic records.
.  As for the Cascades where the glaciers are struggling the last decade has been warmer
And just wait until 2009 is added.

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PostFri Oct 16, 2009 4:29 pm 
The snowfall at Cascade Locks (elev 200 ft) on 13 October 2009 is the earliest snowfall I am aware of in Washington or Oregon near sea level.

This follows just 9 days after the greatest October snowfall on record in Bend OR on 4 October 2009.

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PostFri Oct 16, 2009 4:42 pm 
The 8 degrees F recorded at Pullman WA on 11 Oct 2009 is by far the coldest recorded there so early in the winter season.  The previous record was 18 F on 9 Oct 1985.  Pullman had 3 consecutive nights with 11, 8, and 13 degrees!  Climate data from Pullman extends back to 1893.

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PostFri Oct 16, 2009 8:24 pm 
These cut and pastse jobs are an waste of our database storage.  Host it on your own website and post a link in the future.

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PostSat Oct 17, 2009 12:01 am 
Wow -- high 50s and low 60s forecast for the Cascade Locks. A real warm spell building.

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PostSat Oct 17, 2009 3:31 am 
Gil wrote:
Wow -- high 50s and low 60s forecast for the Cascade Locks. A real warm spell building.

Those would be average high temps.

What weatherman posts seems to reflect at very least a vague understanding of our climate . Something I've yet to see from you.  lol.gif

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PostSat Oct 17, 2009 12:08 pm 
Hmmm ... I see the posting of random temperatures. Maybe you can explain that?

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PostThu Feb 04, 2010 4:34 am 
I thought Cliff Maas's post on the all time record January warmth was worth the read. Records broken  This is before all the hot air of the Olympic Games sweeps into the area. wink.gif

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PostThu Feb 04, 2010 7:01 am 
Looking at cliff's link I thought I was looking at my neighborhood here in Houston. Yes we did have an alligator in the flower beds down the street last year.  clown.gif

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