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PostWed Aug 19, 2009 2:09 pm 
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http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/

In this entry Cliff is beating up on everyone's favorite danger boy.
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PostWed Aug 19, 2009 4:23 pm 
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Except his website freezes up my computer...no pun intended. biggrin.gif

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PostWed Aug 19, 2009 8:27 pm 
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treeswarper wrote:
Except his website freezes up my computer...no pun intended. biggrin.gif

try firefox. I'm surprised his blog caused problems for your browser.
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PostWed Aug 19, 2009 11:01 pm 
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I enjoy his book greatly. I saw him speak during one of the PBS fund raising marathons, he's well spoken too. Good answers to the questions.

thank you for the link to his blog. More Cliff !!
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PostWed Aug 19, 2009 11:07 pm 
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we did a gift exchange at xmas  this year and I had his book in my hands until my niece swiped it from me in a surprise last second move. but I was happy she showed even a remote interest in something thought provoking.

he updated his entry tonight describing a visit from King 5 to discuss the "extreme" summer we are having. he found it very ironic.
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PostThu Jun 02, 2011 12:54 pm 
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Sign the petition if you think Cliff Mass should be rehired at KUOW.  They don't need that many more to reach their goal of 5000.

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/cliffmassonkuow

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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Put-Cliff-Mass-back-on-KUOW/149155005153152

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PostThu Jun 02, 2011 12:58 pm 
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Cliff Mass is awesome. On his blog he takes on the sheer idiocy and irrationality of the new math curriculum, and then over some teapot tempest some folks dump him.  I hope he makes it back.

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PostThu Jun 02, 2011 1:05 pm 
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Funny I had Cliff Mass as a professor for an Atmospheric Sciences 101 class in the vast Kane Hall at the UW around 30 years ago...

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If I hired a guy to talk about the weather, because that is what he is an expert in, and that's what I want from his show, then he talks about all kinds of other non-weather things, and he ignored repeated requests to knock it off, I'd fire him, too. That said, I like Cliff Mass and I'd like to see him back on the air. But I wouldn't sign a petition with the ludicrous request that the person who fired him be "investigated".  huh.gif Nor one that in essence says the radio station cannot have any say in what they air on their station. That is "dreamland" nonsense.  down.gif  down.gif

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I was curious as to what he was saying that was so controversial - well its here  and after reading that and watching the recommended Youtube video I'm not sure that I really agree with him.

Correlation doesn't mean causation.  I doubt that kids can read an analog clock today with the speed and accuracy of yesteryear but I wouldn't put the blame for that at the feet of Washington public schools.

Climate scientists hate it when experts in other fields chime in with an opinion on global warming.  It is that unreasonable that professional educations bristle at attacks on their curriculum coming from a climate scientist?

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PostThu Jun 02, 2011 2:13 pm 
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David¹ wrote:
It is that unreasonable that professional educations bristle at attacks on their curriculum coming from a climate scientist?

Isn't Cliff a professional educator?
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Well KUOW is owned by the U of W home of the U of W School of Education. Just like if you were employed by the Seattle Times to write weather forecasts and spent part of your forecast to criticize repealing the Estate Tax. Some employers might take that but not many. Usually ya hafta dance with the one who brought ya.

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Slugman wrote:
If I hired a guy to talk about the weather, because that is what he is an expert in, and that's what I want from his show, then he talks about all kinds of other non-weather things, and he ignored repeated requests to knock it off, I'd fire him, too. That said, I like Cliff Mass and I'd like to see him back on the air. But I wouldn't sign a petition with the ludicrous request that the person who fired him be "investigated".  huh.gif Nor one that in essence says the radio station cannot have any say in what they air on their station. That is "dreamland" nonsense.  down.gif  down.gif

They are continually going off topic on all sorts of things from all sides and that is half the fun of the show. Are you not noticing that the informal drift all over the place occurs continually?

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Daryl wrote:
David¹ wrote:
It is that unreasonable that professional educations bristle at attacks on their curriculum coming from a climate scientist?

Isn't Cliff a professional educator?

It doesn't take a PhD in math to know that 2+2 isn't 5, and seeing what is wrong with what they are pushing doesn't take a degree either.

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PostThu Jun 02, 2011 2:57 pm 
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Good point, MG. I like the drift, and I like Cliff, but I'm not the boss. I'm just saying that if an employee doesn't do what the boss wants, the boss may pull the plug. If Cliff didn't want to do what they wanted, he should have quit himself. I have quit jobs myself because they wanted me to do something I wasn't comfortable with. And it's not like Cliff needed this job to keep body and soul together. This was a sideline for him.

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