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Quark
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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 7:43 am 
They do that in The Enchantments. If you can't figure out your abilities in mileage and gain, it's not their problem. Plus, they've probably heard that one a time or two, "Why can't I camp here! bawl.gif I like it heeerrreee bawl.gif I can't make it any further! bawl.gif would you rather me stumble around in the dark?" eek.gif angel.gif " Well, why didn't you say so! I understand! You're tired. You go ahead and make camp in the Lost World Plateau with no permit, no problem." But I would think NCNP in that area would be a bit more lenient - it's not like folks are clamouring and clawing their way around there. Blake not able to make it? Hard to fathom that. PiB & I once dropped him off at the Bridge Cr trailhead on Hwy 20 with nothing but the clothes on his back & butt, a bottle of water, and tenny-runners - he was going to a wedding in Stehekin that afternoon. dizzy.gif

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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 8:21 am 
Thank y'all for reminding me why I stick to Wilderness Areas (not including the 'Chants or Parks) for overnighting.

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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 8:34 am 
Quark wrote:
If you can't figure out your abilities in mileage and gain, it's not their problem.
There are a number of variables that can affect a trip. The Mountaineers may not teach that part though. wink.gif

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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 12:00 pm 
Tossing in a couple of pano shots. Notice the black dots on the trail pano...hopefully not permanent from when I dropped my camera in the drink. winksmile.gif
pano above the upper lake
pano above the upper lake
pano from the trail
pano from the trail

A fuxk, why do I not give one?
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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 12:38 pm 
kleet wrote:
trout, trout, pretty little trout, jump right in and splash about.
trout, trout, pretty little trout, jump right in and splash about.
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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 12:56 pm 
Enjoy the trouts while you can, that lake's on the list to get flammable.gif

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Quark
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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 2:35 pm 
Allison wrote:
Quark wrote:
If you can't figure out your abilities in mileage and gain, it's not their problem.
There are a number of variables that can affect a trip. The Mountaineers may not teach that part though. wink.gif
Yeah, I get the variables ...point being that if they gave in for one person with that excuse, hundreds would suddenly claim the same "problem." Not that Blake's issue wasn't legit; I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I have no idea what the Mountaineers teach regarding trips. confused.gif

"...Other than that, the post was more or less accurate." Bernardo, NW Hikers' Bureau Chief of Reporting
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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 2:44 pm 
Oh, I thought you were all dating a Mountaineer guy and was into all that Mountie stuff now. Don't mind me, I do not keep up on things so good. dizzy.gif I am not advocating abusing the system. However, I don't think penalizing people for legitimately falling short of their attempted milestone for the day is appropriate.

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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 2:45 pm 
I suspect Blake made up that excuse. That said, I'm sure it's not always the case. That's just part of discretion the ranger would have for interpreting the rules.

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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 2:49 pm 
He told me himself that he didn't have a permit for that trip, and that a lot of the locals frown on the whole program. *shrug* That said, I think they managed to get that ranger fired after that season. It was the same one who stopped us and checked our permit when we were there.

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Quark
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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 2:53 pm 
Allison wrote:
Oh, I thought you were all dating a Mountaineer guy and was into all that Mountie stuff now. Don't mind me, I do not keep up on things so good. dizzy.gif
OK, gotcha. up.gif But we're not dating.* I don't take any Mountaineer classes, but they do have a good Naturalist course. I don't pay any attention when he starts with the "being prepared" rigamarole. I just roll my eyes. But rolling my eyes looses its affect when I have to borrow his sun screen because I forgot mine, or I need some ibuprophen because I forgot to pack it. Same as when I roll my eyes at JimK when he starts up with his "being prepared" mumbo-jumbo, and then I have to unroll them when he hands me his second sandwich because I forgot mine. I hate it when I have to eat my rolled eyes. * clown.gif (different status)

"...Other than that, the post was more or less accurate." Bernardo, NW Hikers' Bureau Chief of Reporting
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PostThu Jul 29, 2010 3:00 pm 
hijacked.gif Not AGAIN! embarassedlaugh.gif Oh well, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

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PostFri Jul 30, 2010 10:12 am 
Those mystery lakes are sure pretty! After such a long slog in, reaching them is like finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...

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PostSun Aug 01, 2010 7:52 pm 
Quark wrote:
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At the risk of having you roll your eyes at me, please elaborate. hockeygrin.gif Btw, nice pics, kleet! biggrin.gif

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PostSun Aug 01, 2010 7:59 pm 
Tamarack lakes.

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