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| tod701 wrote: |
I heard this weekend that the State gave Carter Subaru 1200 D-passes for free.  |
You should probably stop listening to whoever told you that. 
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tod701
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Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:25 pm |
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| Slugman wrote: | | tod701 wrote: | |
I heard this weekend that the State gave Carter Subaru 1200 D-passes for free. |
You should probably stop listening to whoever told you that. |
Why?
I followed up on this and found that according to Ilene Frisch at Washington State Parks, the 1200 passes were given to Carter Subaru in trade for the Discover Pass to be included in Carter's 2012 marketing campaign.
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Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:21 pm |
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| tod701 wrote: | | I followed up on this and found that according to Ilene Frisch at Washington State Parks, the 1200 passes were given to Carter Subaru in trade for the Discover Pass to be included in Carter's 2012 marketing campaign. |
You spoke with Ilene and she told you that, or you googled it and are making that assumption based on Commission meeting notes?
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| iampam wrote: | | You spoke with Ilene and she told you that, or you googled it and are making that assumption based on Commission meeting notes? |
I had Legislative staff contact her on my behalf and they forwarded me her email reply.
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:49 am |
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I looked into it further, apparently Carter is spending $300,000 in radio advertising promoting the special, which is also promoting the Discover Pass, so I guess that's why State Parks felt justified in giving them away for free?
There has been a sentiment (from administrators and perhaps some legislators) that maybe the Discover Pass can be successful if we just advertise it more. This move is consistent with that.
Interesting...
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Parks need to be available to all, at a reasonable fee. Some state parks won't even let you drive in to check out a campsite, you may've made a reservation for at a later date, unless you have a discover pass.
Fish and Wildlife makes it even worse, when those who buy hunting/fishing licenses, receive an Access Pass, only valid at WDFW access areas only...yet without reading the fine print, and the fact its on a yellow pass holder (like a valid discover pass), everyone thinks it is a discover pass, and ofter learn its not, after getting a citation.
State Public lands need to get back to receiving general fund monies to operate, and work towards marketing the public role to protect and preserve lands through donations that enhance facilities, contribute to trail maintenance, and allows one a better recreational experience. Write your state senators and representative of you ideas and ways to better operate our state public lands.
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tod701
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:39 pm |
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| cragrat wrote: | | Parks need to be available to all, at a reasonable fee. Some state parks won't even let you drive in to check out a campsite, you may've made a reservation for at a later date, unless you have a discover pass.
Fish and Wildlife makes it even worse, when those who buy hunting/fishing licenses, receive an Access Pass, only valid at WDFW access areas only...yet without reading the fine print, and the fact its on a yellow pass holder (like a valid discover pass), everyone thinks it is a discover pass, and ofter learn its not, after getting a citation.
State Public lands need to get back to receiving general fund monies to operate, and work towards marketing the public role to protect and preserve lands through donations that enhance facilities, contribute to trail maintenance, and allows one a better recreational experience. Write your state senators and representative of you ideas and ways to better operate our state public lands. |
I'd like to take that thought a step further.
The basic concept of public lands should be considered.
If you are not using a developed facility or service, why should there be a fee to access your public lands?
Of course you do most likely use roads to access those public lands, but via the fuel tax you paid haven't you covered your part of that bill already?
Developed facilities- different story, a reasonable fee going into accounts with reasonable tracability, that's OK.
Not trying to piss anyone off, just a thought to kick around.
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