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JonnyQuest Member
Joined: 10 Dec 2013 Posts: 593 | TRs | Pics
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"Outplay and outscore are two different things, sometimes".
True, but outplay can be subjective.
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Get Out and Go Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 2127 | TRs | Pics Location: Leavenworth |
Addicted to these matches, regardless of who is playing. What a victory for Costa Rica...Sets up a huge match between Uruguay and Italy!
"These are the places you will find me hiding'...These are the places I will always go."
(Down in the Valley by The Head and The Heart)
"Sometimes you're happy. Sometimes you cry.
Half of me is ocean. Half of me is sky."
(Thanks, Tom Petty)
"These are the places you will find me hiding'...These are the places I will always go."
(Down in the Valley by The Head and The Heart)
"Sometimes you're happy. Sometimes you cry.
Half of me is ocean. Half of me is sky."
(Thanks, Tom Petty)
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RayD the griz ate my pass
Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 1763 | TRs | Pics Location: Vacaville |
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:56 pm
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USA Portugal! What an exciting game! US played with lots of heart...and that "crotch goal" was summin else.
Too bad about the tie. Props to Portugal for fighting to the very end.
don't believe everything you think
don't believe everything you think
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Layback Cascades Expatriate
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 5712 | TRs | Pics Location: Back East |
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:02 pm
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Soccer is a real kick. Get it?
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tmatlack Member
Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 2854 | TRs | Pics
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Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:43 am
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That was a very beatable Portugal side..Lots of discussion. For example, Klinsmann starts us with a 1-5-4, which is a play-for-a-draw formation. However, after the early give away goal, we put the offensive pressure on, in 1-5-4, and dominate the run of play. How much better could we have done with Wolondowski upfront with Dempsey?
Will he go 1-5-4 vs. Germany?
The late goal is part coaching error mixed in with a lot of inexperience too. Klinsmann and the other bench folks were just as euphoric as the players, meanwhile Ronaldo is standing wide, right in front of them, when Bradley gave away that last questionable midfield offensive surge.
Finally, the last substitute for USA was a 3rd central defender to protect high balls in the middle. Where did he go on the Ronaldo cross? Could Howard have cut that cross off with a sprint off his line?
So close yet so far.
Tom
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tigermn Member
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Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:59 pm
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So does the US coach get together with his buddy (the German coach) and agree to just play for a draw so both teams advance?
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lostintheforest Member
Joined: 31 Oct 2013 Posts: 80 | TRs | Pics
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The US has shown they can be dangerous at times, so I would guess that Germany would be happy to take a draw and win the group. Germans are pretty good at being pragmatic. Except for those few occasions they decided they wanted to take over the world.
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coldrain108 Thundering Herd
Joined: 05 Aug 2010 Posts: 1858 | TRs | Pics Location: somewhere over the rainbow |
tigermn wrote: | So does the US coach get together with his buddy (the German coach) and agree to just play for a draw so both teams advance? |
they have done it in the past...
how all soccer games look to Americans
"the next 80 minutes were played out as a grotesque and interminable kickabout."
I expect both teams to "park the bus in front of the goal".
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
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Mongo Member
Joined: 22 May 2002 Posts: 302 | TRs | Pics
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Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:19 pm
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US played a good game against Portugal. The last 45 seconds were just what happens at the top levels with top players. No one can play a perfect game.
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Malachai Constant Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 16088 | TRs | Pics Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny |
Pretty good performance by USA against a tough (and better) Germany thanks to Portugal.
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
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Redwic Unlisted Free Agent
Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Posts: 3292 | TRs | Pics Location: Going to the Prom(inence) |
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:43 pm
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Despite the 1-1-1 record during the Group Stage, I was pleased with the performance of Team USA during the Group Stage. They played a very tough Ghana team which had a direct hand in ousting them the prior two World Cup tournaments, then outplayed Portugal most of their game except for the last minute and final score, and then held their own against Germany while having opportunities near the end to tie the game. And when you consider that Altidore, arguably Team USA's biggest offensive threat (next to Dempsey), was nearly completely out of the Ghana game and completely out of the other two games, Team USA should feel good about how things have fared thus far.
Team USA traveled further during the Group Stage than any other team in the tournament. They are also one of only two teams (with Switzerland being the other) to play a game in the wickedly hot & humid Amazonian city of Manaus and be moving on to the next round.
Several countries with historically good football teams are not moving on to the next rounds, including England, Italy, Portugal, and the previous World Cup champion Spain. Team USA has lasted longer in the tournament than those countries' teams, despite being placed in the "Group of Death" and not expected to get out of the Group Stage.
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Some positives to consider, for the next game:
-> Team USA sat a couple of key players during the game against Germany. This gave more experience to their well-rested substitutions while at the same time giving much needed rest to key players.
-> At last report, Altidore is expected to play in the next game... which would be a huge boost to the team's chances.
-> Ending up as the #2 team in Group G actually gave Team USA an extra day of rest heading to the next round. Group G's #2 team (USA) plays Group H's #1 team on Tuesday afternoon, the last game of the Knockout Round. In contrast, Group G's #1 team (Germany) has to play Group H's #2 team on Monday. That extra day of rest might be huge for Team USA.
60 pounds lighter but not 60 points brighter.
60 pounds lighter but not 60 points brighter.
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tmatlack Member
Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 2854 | TRs | Pics
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:32 pm
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Redwic et al,
Good summary. Belgium is a good match up for us. If Michael Bradley can get it going(he didn't today) things would be a lot easier for us because we could hold the ball a little more.
Anyway..Germany is always one of the top sides. They took care of their business; we took care of ours...including some luck, and got some help from that rascal Christiano Ronaldo.
Tom
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Bernardo Member
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:02 pm
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The group outcome was just about optimal for Germany because they came out top seeded and one of their top rivals was eliminated. Germany's 4-0 destruction of Portugal in the first game was a real boon for the U.S. and Germany.
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touron Member
Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 10293 | TRs | Pics Location: Plymouth Rock |
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Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:39 am
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World Cup 1994, a nefarious plot
Touron is a nougat of Arabic origin made with almonds and honey or sugar, without which it would just not be Christmas in Spain.
Touron is a nougat of Arabic origin made with almonds and honey or sugar, without which it would just not be Christmas in Spain.
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Tom Admin
Joined: 15 Dec 2001 Posts: 17835 | TRs | Pics
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Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:41 pm
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What a game today in the Brazil / Chile match, wow!
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