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MtnGoat Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 11992 | TRs | Pics Location: Lyle, WA |
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Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:46 am
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Quote: | Do you pahk the cah in Hahvahd yahd? Do you refer to multiple people as “dey”? Is a jelly doughnut called a “bismark,” or is everything that comes out of a soda fountain called a coke, even if it’s really 7-Up? Do you root for Da Bears?
The way we speak, both the phrases we use and the accents that inflect those phrases, come from our upbringings. And in a nation of more than 300 million people, it’s little wonder that those accents vary widely. More than a decade ago, Robert Delaney, a reference associate at Long Island University, put together this map of the 24 regions of American English.. |
The news blurb quoted above
the page for the study referenced....
I'd import the map to this post, but have no idea how to do that
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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RayD the griz ate my pass
Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 1763 | TRs | Pics Location: Vacaville |
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the griz ate my pass
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Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:49 am
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don't believe everything you think
don't believe everything you think
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coldrain108 Thundering Herd
Joined: 05 Aug 2010 Posts: 1858 | TRs | Pics Location: somewhere over the rainbow |
When I grew up I lived in :
Washington
Oregon
Ohio
Illinois
California
Connecticut
New Jersey
Georgia
and back to Washington. I've been told I don't have a regional accent.
I learned to speak German before I learned to speak English (went to visit relatives when I was about 2 years old) I speak a southern German dialect - Schwabisch - the German equivalent of American English spoken in Alabama or Mississippi. I can barely understand the Bavarian dialect and the Tyrolean Austrians speak a crazy version of German.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
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NacMacFeegle Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Posts: 2653 | TRs | Pics Location: United States |
I've never noticed that I speak with a particular accent, but if I do it probably falls into the Pacific Northwest category, although I think we need a more colorful name for it, Cascadian perhaps?
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Voxxjin made of hamburger
Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 657 | TRs | Pics Location: Dupont |
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Voxxjin
made of hamburger
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Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:43 pm
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I don't believe I have an accent of any sort (no one has ever said I do). I grew up in PA and have lived in AZ, VA, CO, NC, TX and now here. I do tend to say 'Adios' and 'howdy' and call my drinks sodas or cokes (not pop as that seems stupid). I do tend to not say 't's' in certain words like kittens (pronounced more like kit'ins as opposed to kit'tens) or moun'ians (as opposed to moun'tins)but I sometime also say it the other way as well. But I don't say worsh but say wash and I certainly do not call water fountains---bubblers. And I don't pronounce the Steelers as Stillers or say yins (essentially it stands for 'you all'. And I don't want a sub, I want a hoagie.
Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war
Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war
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Hulksmash Cleaning up.
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 7113 | TRs | Pics Location: Arlington |
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Hulksmash
Cleaning up.
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Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:59 pm
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"Muckatymuck" ????
^ New word to me.
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
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boot up Old Not Bold Hiker
Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 4745 | TRs | Pics Location: Bend Oregon |
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Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:53 pm
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Ski ><((((°>
Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 12831 | TRs | Pics Location: tacoma |
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Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:54 pm
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curious.
it's always been "muckitymuck" as far as I know. my father used the term often. (he was born in the Texas panhandle in 1910; grew up in northwest Missouri and south Omaha; arrived here in the northwest in 1931.)
"muck-a-muck" was the term used by the coastal tribes here for food. (see here - narrative from Gilman expedition.)
("Muckamuck" is also apparently a place name. several posts come up here using the search function.)
but then when I check my dictionary:
muckamuck: n. (also mucketymuck) Slang A person of importance. Usually used scornfully, often in the phrase high muckamuck. (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language © 1969)
my favorites were always the phrases used by relatives in south Omaha; Albion, Nebraska; and Rockport, Missouri:
"didjuz" : as in "didjuz eat yet?"
and
"jeet" : as in "jeet yet?"
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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NacMacFeegle Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Posts: 2653 | TRs | Pics Location: United States |
I've used muckitymuck in the past to refer to someone in a position of authority, as in: "the high muckitymuck". I had no idea it was derived from an Indian word!
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Ski ><((((°>
Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 12831 | TRs | Pics Location: tacoma |
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Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:05 pm
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I don't think the usage of it in that context has anything to do with coastal tribal languages. just a weird coincidence.
no notes in the dictionary on origin. you'll need to ask a linguist on that one.
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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NacMacFeegle Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Posts: 2653 | TRs | Pics Location: United States |
Ski wrote: | I don't think the usage of it in that context has anything to do with coastal tribal languages. just a weird coincidence.
no notes in the dictionary on origin. you'll need to ask a linguist on that one. |
From the article linked by MtnGoat:
Quote: | Pacific Northwest: More influence from Native American languages. An example is the potluck, a gathering where everyone brings a dish, a derivation of the Native American “potlatch.” Muckatymuck, known elsewhere as a big shot, is another Native American term adopted by Northwesterners. But there’s less of an accent here than elsewhere, given the fact that the region was settled relatively recently. |
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Chico Member
Joined: 30 Nov 2012 Posts: 2500 | TRs | Pics Location: Lacey |
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Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:58 pm
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coldrain108 wrote: | When I grew up I lived in :
Washington
Oregon
Ohio
Illinois
California
Connecticut
New Jersey
Georgia
and back to Washington. |
You must be an Army brat?
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Brian Curtis Trail Blazer/HiLaker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 1696 | TRs | Pics Location: Silverdale, WA |
NacMacFeegle wrote: | Pacific Northwest: More influence from Native American languages. An example is the potluck, a gathering where everyone brings a dish, a derivation of the Native American “potlatch.” Muckatymuck, known elsewhere as a big shot, is another Native American term adopted by Northwesterners. But there’s less of an accent here than elsewhere, given the fact that the region was settled relatively recently. |
I was going to read the article but with this as an example of the quality I'll pass. The term potluck originated in Europe in the 1600s. The similarity to potlatch is purely coincidental.
that elitist from silverdale wanted to tell me that all carnes are bad--Studebaker Hoch
that elitist from silverdale wanted to tell me that all carnes are bad--Studebaker Hoch
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treeswarper Alleged Sockpuppet!
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 11276 | TRs | Pics Location: Don't move here |
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Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:12 am
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I've been told I have a Canadian accent. So do my E. Warshington friends.
But after my exile in Up Nort Wisconsin, I can also speak with da Finlander accent--I lived next to the Yooper part of Michigan. Maybe that's because of the Scandihoovian side of the family.
I shall reveal the mistake made about my user name. Swarp is a term used by the folks who settled here. They came from the East Tennesee area. I used the term in Wisconsin and a guy's eyes lit up and he asked, (in an Appalachian accent) "SWARP! Where did you pick that term up at? I haven't heard it used since I left home!"
Swarp is used in various ways. On our fire crew as we ran to the safety zone to hunker, our sawyer began bellowing, "FIVE MORE MINUTES AND WE'D HAD 'ER SWARPED." Meaning in a joking way that if our crew had five more minutes of line digging, we'd have the fire out. Or in the landromat, "You wash the clothes and I'll go swarp out the house."
My Cheesehead transplant friend, then queried me about the terms Peaked, pronounced peekid and was delighted to find other similar terms used.
Just some trivia. My one yooper expression I learned was "youzguysgoornohey". Meaning: Are you ready to go?
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
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Bedivere Why Do Witches Burn?
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 7464 | TRs | Pics Location: The Hermitage |
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Bedivere
Why Do Witches Burn?
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Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:32 pm
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I grew up here in the Seattle area so am firmly in the Pacific Northwest zone, though often mix in a little Southwestern to color things up.
My mom was from Missouri so I grew up calling sodas "pop" as that's what she called them.
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