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PostSat Mar 11, 2017 10:00 pm 
Dave Workman wrote:
Might be that the ecosystem we now have is a bit better off without the grizzlies and wolves.
Different. Better? Worse? By what metric?

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PostMon Mar 13, 2017 9:12 pm 
Comment period extended: Public comment period open through April 28, 2017 Sedro Woolley, Wash. – The National Park Service and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will extend the public comment period regarding the proposed alternatives for the restoration of grizzly bears to the North Cascades Ecosystem by 45 days, through April 28, 2017. The agencies received several requests for an extension to the comment period from members of the public and local elected officials. The goal of the public comment period is to gather comments regarding the draft EIS; public comments received on the draft EIS will be evaluated and considered in the identification of the preferred alternative, which will be published in the Final EIS. The alternatives analyzed in this draft EIS include a “no-action” alternative, plus three action alternatives that would seek to restore a reproducing population of approximately 200 bears through the capture and release of grizzly bears into the North Cascades Ecosystem. The alternatives were developed by a planning team with input from the public, local, state and federal agencies, and the scientific community. The public is invited to view the draft EIS and submit written comments through April 28, 2017, online at http://parkplanning.nps.gov/grizzlydeis or via regular mail or hand delivery at: Superintendent’s Office, North Cascades National Park Service Complex, 810 State Route 20, Sedro Woolley, WA 98284 Actions proposed on National Forest System lands under the draft EIS are subject to the USDA Forest Service’s pre-decisional objection process. This comment period constitutes the opportunity to establish eligibility to object to the Forest Service’s draft decision under the regulations at 36 CFR 218. For more information on this process, visit: https://www.fs.fed.us/emc/applit/includes/20160531Final218ObjectionBrochure.pdf The grizzly bear was listed as a threatened species in the contiguous United States in 1975. The species was listed as endangered by the state of Washington in 1980. Thank you for your interest in this project~ The National Park Service and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
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Just a reminder, the comment period ends on March 14.

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PostTue Mar 14, 2017 9:26 am 
Kim Brown wrote:
Comment period extended: Public comment period open through April 28, 2017
Very nice. Thanks for posting this Kim. ~z

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PostTue Mar 14, 2017 4:20 pm 
What is the role of local elected officials!

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PostTue Mar 14, 2017 10:54 pm 
Jeff Bridges, with the definitive viewpoint:

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PostTue Mar 14, 2017 11:27 pm 
Wildlife Media, in the YouTube video cited just above wrote:
"Grizzly bears have lived in the North Cascades for 20,000 years."
Really? Where is the evidence that there were resident Grizzly bears in the North Cascades prior to the recession of the Cordilleran Ice Sheet? dizzy.gif

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PostWed Mar 15, 2017 12:12 am 
contour5 wrote:
Jeff Bridges, with the definitive viewpoint:
Here we go trotting out the celebrities now. I doubt that Jeff Bridges will be in the back country meeting up with these powerful carnivores to exchange warm and fuzzy hugs. "definitive"? As in .."serving to provide a final solution or to end a situation" or "authoritative and apparently exhaustive". ??? Hardly. ~z

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PostWed Mar 15, 2017 8:37 am 
"restore a reproducing population of approximately 200 bears through the capture and release of grizzly bears". 200 bears?? you gotta be kidding, right!!!!!

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PostWed Mar 15, 2017 1:05 pm 
Kim, thanks for posting about the public comment period regarding the proposed alternatives for the restoration of grizzly bears to the North Cascades Ecosystem by 45 days, through April 28, 2017. You beat me to it. I wonder, however, if the announcement doesn't deserve its own topic in the Stewardship forum? It will get buried in this thread. Yep, Jeff Bridges says it all. But then he's a grand ole griz himself.

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PostWed Mar 15, 2017 2:53 pm 
Wildlife Media, in the YouTube video cited just above wrote:
"Grizzly bears have lived in the North Cascades for 20,000 years."
I got it! They were hibernating for all that time while they were waiting for the ice sheet to melt, right? lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif

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PostWed Mar 15, 2017 9:13 pm 
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"Grizzly bears have lived in the North Cascades for 20,000 years."
I seem to recall recent reports of studies pushing the timeline for human habitation back closer to 20,000 years. Not sure why exact dates are even relevant to a discussion about reintroduction. The Grizz were a natural part of the cascadian fauna/ecosystem for a long time, until we gunned them all down just recently. Not advocating for or against re-intro. I'm fascinated by the possibility, but terrified by the actuality. Don't really feel I have a say in the matter anyway. Looks like fatcat donors are lubricating the process pretty heavily so I'm assuming it's a done deal and the whole media outcry/public comments dog and pony show is basically a sort of last minute consent manufacturing process. Another Chris Morgan video- much slicker than the Dude interview posted above- "‪WANTED: Grizzly Bears?‬"

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PostThu Mar 16, 2017 7:35 am 
http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2017/mar/15/chelan-county-letter-takes-swipe-at-grizzly-plan/ WENATCHEE — Important parts of the environmental-impact analysis that backs the feds’ interest in reintroducing grizzly bears into the North Cascades ignores current science and is based on outdated facts. That’s the opinion Chelan County Commissioners Doug England, Keith Goehner and Kevin Overbay expressed in a March 13 letter to regional National Park Service officials. “We believe the DEIS (draft economic-impact statement) is inadequate in several areas and ask that the restoration plan not be implemented and an environmental impact statement not be issued until such concerns are more thoroughly examined and mitigated,” the commissioners say in their letter to Karen Taylor-Goodrich, superintendent of the North Cascades National Park Service Complex in Sedro-Woolley. The letter points to four areas: Forecasted habitat conditions — The draft impact statement doesn’t accurately forecast the capacity of the habitat in the North Cascades to sustain the bears over time, because it’s based on zero substantial habitat change for the next 150 years. This defies “current science,” which indicates “substantial habitat changes” will occur from man-made events, as well as wildfire, climate change and transportation corridors through the region. These changes could result in shorter hibernation times for grizzlies, the letter says. Reduced soil moisture from declines in rainfall and snowpack could result in lower production of wild huckleberries, a key food source for grizzly and black bears. Faulty assumptions — The draft economic-impact statement and its underlying studies rely on assumptions on grizzly bear behavior and habitat requirements that make it impossible to allow for an informed decision. For example, it includes no data about grizzly bear habitat use or population data specific to the North Cascades Ecosystem where the bears would be reintroduced, nor area-specific empirical data about the bears’ consumption of salmon, a fish that PUDs, and state and federal agencies have spent millions of dollars over decades to restore. Restoration timeline data lacking — If humans are to intervene in bear relocation, more precise estimates (through modeling) are needed to determine the best places to relocate the bears, based on habitat availability and carrying capacity, how many bears to relocate, and the number of years needed to achieve recovery goals. “The lack of understanding of where and how to restore (North Cascades) grizzly bears and possible extinction of these reintroduced populations needs to be addressed,” the letter says. Impact on human activity — The draft environmental-impact statement notes that it’s difficult to predict where grizzlies will move once reintroduced. The draft doesn’t address dispersal of the bears into communities, nor the bears’ potential impact on agriculture, forestry, and fishing, which comprise more than 24 percent of all county employment, and tourism, another major economic driver. The draft impact statement draws on Chelan County population data from 1990. More current estimates from 2015 show population growth estimates of 75,644 — higher by 20,000 people. The draft statement includes four alternatives toward grizzly reintroduction. The first would require no human intervention, but allow the bears to wander into the region from Canada on their own. This “Alternative A” is the one favored by county commissioners. The other three require relocating bears from Montana over two to 25 years to restore as many as 200 grizzlies at cost estimates of $2 million to $8.5 million, depending on number of years and number of bears. Commissioners met with federal officials March 7, Commissioner England said Wednesday. Their concerns, he said, were more extensive than those expressed in the letter. The commission asked for a longer comment period to give them more time to review the 300-page draft statement and its supporting materials, he said. “We’re very much in favor of Option A, which they insist on calling ‘No Action,’ but we insist on calling ‘Natural Action,’” England said. “They say there’s no confirmed population of grizzly bears in that area, so we say there’s no hurry.” The National Park Service and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Wednesday announced the comment period would be extended until April 28. To comment and learn more about the proposal, visit http://parkplanning.nps.gov/grizzlydeis. Park Service spokeswoman Denise Shultz said Wednesday that the federal agencies have received 110,000 public comments. None of them will be posted on the project’s website for public review until more than two months after the comment period ends, she said.

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PostThu Mar 16, 2017 11:38 am 
Thanks for the Bozeman newspaper link, CD! Interesting article. Mentions in Yellowstone, they manage the "aggressive" grizzlies in the Spring by closing areas to the public. The Yellowstone National Park link shows all of the areas they close at different times of the year - either due to the den areas or the grizzlies coming out of hibernation or ..... Here's the link to the Yellowstone map and all of the closure times/areas during the year. Extensive areas and lengths of closures. https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/management/bearclosures.htm I wonder how much of North Cascades would be closed to the public and for how long. When I looked thru the Alternatives, I didn't see any specifics. Seems like this would be an important item to consider when evaluating their Alternatives.

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PostThu Mar 16, 2017 1:39 pm 
Tom_Sjolseth wrote:
. . . why Grizzlies aren't establishing this territory on their own?
AFAIK the consensus among wildlife biologists studying the issue is that road development and vast clear cutting in BC has severed previously contiguous grizzly habitat. There's research out there that the severance might have been avoided per a different systematic approach to clear cutting that yields more favorable perimeter-to-edge ratio, but it's too late to unring that bell.

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