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PostWed May 27, 2015 5:33 am 
http://www.yakamanation.net/treaty.php - Read how big it was. Before the ink on the treaty was dry the government opened the land for settlement. I wonder if Mt. Adams has a Native name?


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PostWed May 27, 2015 1:00 pm 
I think it was Klickitat, right?

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PostWed May 27, 2015 4:39 pm 
JVesquire wrote:
I think it was Klickitat, right?

Right you are. This Wikipedia history- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Adams_(Washington)#History

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PostWed May 27, 2015 7:34 pm 
Snowbrushy, do you know what life is like on the reservation today?

How many people live there?

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PostWed May 27, 2015 10:13 pm 
Territorial Governor Isaac P. Stevens left a great deal to be desired when it came to something we know as "ethics".

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PostThu May 28, 2015 3:16 am 
Bernardo wrote:
..do you know what life is like on the reservation today?
How many people live there?

The main community of Toppinish was busy when I drove through last summer. Not aware of the population. A nation that originally owned half of the Cascade mountains and that Puget Sounders share a mountain pass with yet know so little about..

An attractive Yakima gal was once in a class of mine in Ellensberg but she seemed quietly angry about something. That was at the time of the Boldt Decision and later the era of casinos. I should imagine that they are eager to do business/trade with us (whites) again. http://legendscasino.com/?p=975


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PostThu May 28, 2015 9:08 am 
I might be wrong, but several Yakama people I knew referred to Adams as "Pahto", although I don't know if the spelling is correct.

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PostThu May 28, 2015 9:52 am 
The Yakamas certainly might call it that. I remember one native name was Klickitat.

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PostThu May 28, 2015 2:11 pm 
Here is what the Wikipedia article I posted above said (you are both right).

"Native Americans in the area have composed many legends concerning the three "smoking mountains" that guard the Columbia River. According to the Bridge of the Gods tale, Wy'east (Mount Hood) and Pahto (Mount Adams; also called Paddo or Klickitat by native peoples) were the sons of the Great Spirit. The brothers both competed for the love of the beautiful La-wa-la-clough (Mount St. Helens). When La-wa-la-clough chose Pahto, Wy'east struck his brother hard so that Pahto's head was flattened and Wy'east took La-wa-la-clough from him (thus attempting to explain Adams' squat appearance)."

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PostThu May 28, 2015 2:42 pm 
There is this on the Umatilla website which says that an event at the Yakama Nation will be held in a room with the name (Pahto) that was mentioned for Adams -
http://ctuir.org/umatilla-land-buy-back-outreach-event-may-28

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PostThu May 28, 2015 4:01 pm 
Ski wrote:
Territorial Governor Isaac P. Stevens left a great deal to be desired when it came to something we know as "ethics".

The first governor of Washington Territory was Isaac Ingalls Stevens. He was born in Andover, Massachusetts where the family name of Ingalls had strong roots. I would have to do some homework to determine the connection with the Ingalls family.

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PostThu May 28, 2015 6:37 pm 
gah!
that's what I get for pulling stuff out of my failing memory.
he was indeed Isaac Ingalls Stevens.

Mike if you can find a book called "Judicially Murdered" (local press - I bought my copy at Swanson's in Aberdeen) you'll understand the reason for my statement above.

(and looking here, I am not seeing it on my bookshelf... did I already give it to you?) wink.gif


link: http://judiciallymurdered2.weebly.com/
wikipedia blather: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicially_Murdered

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PostThu May 28, 2015 7:25 pm 
Pulitzer Prize winner Richard Kluger has written a book entitled The Bitter Waters of Medicine Creek-A Tragic Clash Between White and Native America which recounts the impact if Steven's program on the Nisqually tribe. It likely echoes Judicially Murdered which you referenced concerning the Yakama nation.
BTW, Isaac Stevens had a third cousin and good friend named Rufus Ingalls. Somewhere along the way there is a family connection between the Stevens' family and the Ingalls family to allow that middle name to be given to him at birth.

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PostSun May 31, 2015 12:40 pm 
salish wrote:
I might be wrong, but several Yakama people I knew referred to Adams as "Pahto", although I don't know if the spelling is correct.

Different groups used their own names for prominent mountains including Rainier and Adams.

The early Washington botanist and specimen collector W.N. Suksdorf regularly used the name Paddo in his own notes. It seems likely that he was spending as much time on the mountain as any non-Cowlitz or Yakama person

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PostMon Jun 01, 2015 8:58 am 
Considering the "Yakama" were a "nation" of 14 different groups, grouped together by Guv. Stevens, it's only fitting they would have different names for Mt. Adams.

As for Stevens, how could there be a conflict of interest when holding concurrent offices of Governor and Secretary of Indian Affairs? What a great job that must have been, no possibility of corruption there. (#sarcasm for those of you too thick to realize it)

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