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PostThu May 28, 2015 1:08 pm 
IanB wrote:
You might find a pruner who can do a good job through: http://www.plantamnesty.org/referral-services The situation you describe with the second lilac - needing to reduce the height of a mature plant - is an unhappy proposition. Any significant reduction is inevitably going to be removing the best bloom and triggering watersprouts. If the plant can be gradually transitioned off of the old wood onto new, then the silver lining is that healthy, young buds will bloom stronger than decrepit old wood, and there's a chance of training a lower, more spreading form - but the "tree whisperer" approach takes time and money. This type of pruning can't usually be found for less than $50/hour, and it means an annual commitment, and it means the neighbor won't get their view anytime soon. (Just a slow, steady gradual improvement in the situation year by year.)
I went to the neighbors deck to see how much the lilac impacts their view and it definitely does. it is about 15 ft high and needs to lose 3-4 ft so they can get their view back. I will have to do it since "my cost/their benefit" analysis would make me a jerk neighbor if I dont oblige. I would want the view if I were in their position.

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PostThu May 28, 2015 2:04 pm 
There's something rewarding about pruning by hand. The art of it. The workout of arms and the mind. "Take into thy hand, as thee takes into thy heart." -or something Power tools are faster, though you can get ahead of yourself. Sometimes it's too late when you realize. Usually stuff grows back. It's the north west trees grow on stumps here.

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PostThu May 28, 2015 2:51 pm 
they'll be fine. water them a decent amount and if they make it 'til september, they should have no issues. is this a new renter?

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PostThu May 28, 2015 4:55 pm 
Call Cisco.

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PostThu May 28, 2015 8:38 pm 
Update from housemate. It wasn't a chainsaw, it was edger with an extension so he could reach high. According to housemate, there was much more finesse than I had previously believed. In his own words "no, no, it was like giving a plant a pedicure".

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PostThu May 28, 2015 9:26 pm 
That's good to hear. Pruning a plant with a chainsaw would be like me blowdrying my hair with a leafblower.

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PostThu May 28, 2015 9:39 pm 
Small branches and chainsaws do not often work well and are fraught with hazards shakehead.gif

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PostFri May 29, 2015 6:17 am 
fourteen410 wrote:
That's good to hear. Pruning a plant with a chainsaw would be like me blowdrying my hair with a leafblower.
It all depends on who is running the saw.

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PostFri May 29, 2015 9:00 pm 
It's too bad that dandelions cannot be severely pruned to have them not grow back. There is a guy nearby who cuts the grass extremely low, but I notice that the dandelions are able to outwit him by blossoming even lower. They fly under the radar. And then of course if the grass grows a little tall, they spring up so that they blossom above the top. Clever dandelions are they.

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PostSun May 31, 2015 8:54 pm 
touron wrote:
I am a rank armature gardener, but I think the lilac bush has a chance and might even recover sooner than you think.
Me too! However, my neighbor has two well pruned lilacs that are trimmed down to three stems. They are very healthy and look attractive. My jungle like huge Lilac is a massive shade provider. In a dry Eastern Oregon setting it gets by on little watering from me because of its ability to restrict water loss in the soils beneath it. Their flowering is the same. Good and bad depending on the year. Depends on spring weather. I got 8 or so free lilacs by digging them up at a craigslister place. I have to water them a lot to get them established. I will be eventually trimming them all like my neighbors.

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PostSun May 31, 2015 9:02 pm 
Keep Calm wrote:
Previously he removed half the branches on a huge fir tree, his hypothesis being that more light would promote the vigorous growth of new branches down below. The tree is now dying.
Removing half the branches on a fir tree doesn't sound like what may be killing it. Unless this was a palm tree photo op. In nature. Fir stands self prune because where dense there is no sunlight for the lower limbs. It is amazing how little in the way of foliage they can not just survive on but do very well with. Conifers also have limited problems with suburban chemical warfare compared to hardwoods. But don't exclude that. Its surprisingly large root system could be in a massive war zone at your neighbors place. I suspect there were extenuating circumstances such as some health condition that was missed in the pruned fir.

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PostMon Jun 01, 2015 2:41 pm 
I have NO idea about the tree, but your roommate may have done you a favor on the lilac.They tend to get leggy with time, and best solution seems to be to just scalp the living crap out of them. They'll send out new growth that's much fuller. FWIW I went after my in-laws lilacs 3-5 years ago, and the whole family was aghast but I reassured them that it would work out. I can't remember if we were able to get the limbs out to the dump in one load, but it was a LOT, lol. We were just looking at them this weekend and they're still looking much better for my butcher job than they were before, although they're soon going to be due for another round. I've seen old lilacs that were literally chainsawed down to (surprisingly large!) stumps and then pruned to said stump every year just to keep the growth under control.

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PostWed Jun 03, 2015 10:44 am 
Be happy your roommate used a chain saw...

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PostThu Jun 04, 2015 10:36 am 
Lilacs grow like weeds. Sucker all over the place. New shoots should replace the lost ones quickly. PLants that sucker are fogiving. There are principles of and books about pruning. Worth doing some research. I scoffed at my ex when she bought a magnesium-handled pruning lopper, and ended up practically sleeping with that fine tool. My own animus against 2-cycle engines makes me feel that chain saws are only good for juggling. Somewhere, there is someone who has pruned by flamethrower and machine gun.

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PostThu Jun 04, 2015 11:16 am 
If only you had a camera, people could see the actual plant, the pruning job, etc. Too bad. wink.gif

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