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PostWed Jun 17, 2015 1:41 pm 
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Studebaker Hoch wrote:
Maybe they should build new trails up cannon from the old logging road and up rat creek and toketie; that would atleast spread the crowds out

That would be great! Unlikely, but a very good idea.
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PostThu Jun 18, 2015 4:49 pm 
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The place is being loved to death. People building camp fires at Colchuck lake, trash all over the place at the lake , people hiking and camping in areas clearly designated as "Stay off, trail restoration," broken bottles hidden in tree stumps. Toilet paper and fecal messes. Yuck!

One week before permit season started, we had the exact opposite experience coming in the less popular Snow Lake route on our way to climb McClellan Peak.
Very few people, immaculate prime campsites and clean toilets on the far side of Snow Lake.
Same thing near Lake Viviane and other melted out sites around Leprechaun Lake.
From our McClellan perch we didn't see a single tent in the upper snow covered Enchantments.
Looks like just a little way uphill from Colchuck Lake, total solitude and spotless facilities could have been had.  smile.gif
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PostThu Jun 18, 2015 5:09 pm 
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Studebaker Hoch wrote:
olderthanIusedtobe wrote:
...and great views.

In a mile or less with less than 200 feet of gain; also have running water

And lakeside camps
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PostThu Jun 18, 2015 5:21 pm 
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Spokane?!?!

why such hate, man? wink.gif

Yeah I'm interested to know myself. In fact I grew up here (or rather between here and Montana). But I've also had the pleasure (?) of living all over this country  and even outside of this country. I have lived in much bigger cities than Seattle even. Imagine. And do you know what? I'll take the weather, the summers, the affordable housing, the close proximity to outdoor activities,  The lack of bugs including fleas and heartworm where animals are concerned, and the general friendliness of people here over many places.

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PostThu Jun 18, 2015 5:57 pm 
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Treehugger5 wrote:
Yeah I'm interested to know myself. In fact I grew up here (or rather between here and Montana). But I've also had the pleasure (?) of living all over this country  and even outside of this country. I have lived in much bigger cities than Seattle even. Imagine. And do you know what? I'll take the weather, the summers, the affordable housing, the close proximity to outdoor activities,  The lack of bugs including fleas and heartworm where animals are concerned, and the general friendliness of people here over many places.

Plus Spokane is the home of Gonzaga, so it has that going for it.
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PostFri Jun 19, 2015 7:27 am 
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Treehugger5 wrote:
Ski wrote:
Spokane?!?!

why such hate, man? wink.gif

Yeah I'm interested to know myself. In fact I grew up here (or rather between here and Montana). But I've also had the pleasure (?) of living all over this country  and even outside of this country. I have lived in much bigger cities than Seattle even. Imagine. And do you know what? I'll take the weather, the summers, the affordable housing, the close proximity to outdoor activities,  The lack of bugs including fleas and heartworm where animals are concerned, and the general friendliness of people here over many places.

To be fair, the majority of places I listed were in Seattle. I have a much stronger hate for Seattle (or any big city) than I do Spokane. Truthfully, I've only been there a few times. I think I just prefer some of the smaller towns on the east side.
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PostFri Jun 19, 2015 7:53 am 
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Oh I see.  So you hate something based on no real knowledge.  Good to know.

Carry on.

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PostFri Jun 19, 2015 8:31 am 
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Treehugger5 wrote:
Oh I see.  So you hate something based on no real knowledge.  Good to know.

Carry on.

Are you sure you're not from Seattle? The passive aggressive is pretty strong in this post. I never used the word "hate" to describe my feelings about Spokane. I don't hate it, but I would never live there.
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PostFri Jun 19, 2015 8:42 am 
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Oh was it passive?  I'm sorry.  I meant to be more clear.

ETA:  (you yourself said "I have a much stronger hate for Seattle..."  which implies you have a lesser hate--but still hate-- Spokane).  You're welcome for the composition lesson.

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PostFri Jun 19, 2015 8:45 am 
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Treehugger5 wrote:
Oh was it passive?  I'm sorry.  I meant to be more clear.

Sure. You could have just said I was an idiot for being ignorant about Spokane. Which, in turn, I would have called you an idiot for putting words into my mouth. Direct communication, it's a wonderful thing!
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PostFri Jun 19, 2015 8:46 am 
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Intelligence, it's a wonderful thing !

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PostFri Jun 19, 2015 8:47 am 
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Treehugger5 wrote:
Oh was it passive?  I'm sorry.  I meant to be more clear.

ETA:  (you yourself said "I have a much stronger hate for Seattle..."  which implies you have a lesser hate--but still hate-- Spokane).  You're welcome for the composition lesson.

I have at least a moderate amount of hate for everything, so that says very little. Take me to any city in the world, and I will find something I dislike about it. I prefer being in the woods. With no people.
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PostFri Jun 19, 2015 8:58 am 
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Anyways, I apologize for getting this thread off topic. I will stop feeding the Defender of Spokane. If you want to make a thread about how wonderful Spokane is, feel free to do so in the general forum. I'm sure it will be a hit.

This thread is about burning wilderness areas and covering them with our feces.
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PostFri Jun 19, 2015 9:06 am 
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I see you've edited your post. I will let your posts speak for themselves, including getting off topic which was  originally done by you.

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PostFri Jun 19, 2015 9:12 am 
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Treehugger5 wrote:
I see you've edited your post. I will let your posts speak for themselves, including getting off topic which was  originally done by you.

I did not edit anything. I deleted a post because I thought it was unnecessary. Come on. If you want to have a fun little back and forth where we insult each others intelligence, I'll gladly participate via PM.
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