[MomvsWild]

Larch are at their peak, so we had a wonderful trip up Mt Carne, across the high traverse and camping at upper ice lake. The next day we summited Mt Maude via S Slope and hiked out from Leroy Basin to Phelps Creek trail. Note: Road is very bumpy to Trail head. Bring high clearance vehicles. NO RUNNING WATER AT LEROY BASIN. If you are going up Maude this way, make sure you pump on the way in Leroy Creek trail. By the campsites/toilet the creek is dry!

[Gimpilator]

Last week, I found the creek by the Leroy campsite dry as well, however if you follow it downstream for 100 yards, there is a good amount of flowing water. In fact, I even found a trail from that spot back up to the camps.

[HitTheTrail]

How about water sources in Carne Basin and along the high route (Box Creek and Chipmunk Creek)?

[Gimpilator]

Water can likely be found in Chipmunk creek if you drop a couple hundred feet below the trail, and it can definitely be found in the Box Creek meadows that the trail remnant passes through.

[wanderwild]

Here is the water in Carne Basin from this last Saturday (10/3). It is there, but just super shallow and you gotta find the best spots to filter. There's water though.

[Odysseus]

I you camped out at Upper Ice Lakes you violated a Forest Service Closure Order. You camped inside a closed area. Fine max $5000.00 or imprisonment for not more then six months. Did you call the Forest Service to confirm conditions first?

[Gimpilator]

[mbravenboer]

I didn't want to nitpick in the other post, so I didn't comment on it further, but since it is being discussed again here: the statement "Chiwawa Road and areas previously closed on Wenatchee River Ranger District are now open" is in principle consistent with the closure order published. The boundary of the Wenatchee River Ranger District and the Entiat District runs across the ridge. The *Wenatchee* areas are open, the Entiat area is not. I really wish though that the FS websites would publish a clear map with their verbal description, which can be very hard to sort out. I did find this, which appears to show the closure area in purple. I'm not sure if this is kept up to date when the closure area changes. http://usfs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=bd6c1ad8feb541e7952fc097273f926f If I understood all the info correct (didn't call any ranger stations to confirm), then technically you can go to Maude, but you would be exactly on the boundary of the area, so perhaps better to stay out of there. (edit: you need to zoom in and do some other random things to see the purple closure area)

[Obi Tony Kenobi]

[Opus]

[AlpineRose]

There is nothing elitist about looking at a map of a closure area (if one exists, of course) before one's trip, then looking at a map of where you plan to go to determine if your route enters through a closed area. This is called trip planning. It is also known as plain old common sense. The Forest Service is not your mommy-daddy.

[Malachai Constant]

Most of the posts here violate the no spray in trip reports policy.

[littlebit]

Ice lakes is one of my favorite areas as is (was?) the Entiat river valley. According to the fire maps, the Wolverine fire burned a good chunk of the Entiat. How bad does it look?

[wanderwild]

I took these photos from the ridge between Carne Mountain and Mt. Maude this last Saturday. It looks pretty bad (St. Helens-esque...). I know there was already some burn in that area though, based on Google Earth imagery. Haven't personally been that far up the Entiat though, so I don't know how much worse this is now than whatever was there previously. In the last photo you can see the fire still burning below Ice Lakes, but looks like it was pretty close to going out.

[mbravenboer]

The FS has posted a more clear map now: http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/okawen/alerts-notices/?aid=29690 http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3848859.pdf (This is not to complain about an obviously honest confusion, but to inform people who want to head out to this area, who will likely read these reports)