Forum Index > Full Moon Saloon > ecxema on hands and fingers
 Reply to topic
Previous :: Next Topic
Author Message
tmatlack
Member
Member


Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 2854 | TRs | Pics
tmatlack
Member
PostSun Dec 13, 2015 4:36 am 
Hey, Anyone found a decent lotion or ointment for extremely itchy ecxema? I have a cortisone cream prescription for bad flare ups but am looking for a long term preventive care lotion. I've had it all my life, but lately cold-weather kayaking with polypro liners and neoprene gloves is triggering outbreaks. (Not gonna stop boating, so sorry.) Morning itchiness is intense and frequent hand washing and job related duties keeps lotions to a minimum during the day. Tom

Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
meandering Wa
Member
Member


Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Posts: 1516 | TRs | Pics
Location: Redmond
meandering Wa
Member
PostSun Dec 13, 2015 9:11 am 
Since this is a lifetime situation, I assume you have a good doctor who can keep you on top of the new potential therapies and guide you in diet eliminations. I would like to recommend Natures Plus Natural Beauty Cleansing bar this is technically, not a soap. It maintains an acid pH for your skin and I find it great cleaner and really sympathetic to the skin I get mine at the local heath store, about 3 - 4 $ / bar. It is a little pricey and the current price I saw on Amazon makes me wonder if they use dynamic pricing. I cut a bit off the bar ( or use a heel) and place it in a squeeze container with hot water to make a liquid soap which I keep at work. Have you tried a nitrile liner ( even a nitrile exam glove) as your base layer with the kayaking gear? I wear exam gloves all day and my skin greatly improved when I started using a nitrile as a base under the latex or other synthetic gloves

Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
boot up
Old Not Bold Hiker



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Posts: 4745 | TRs | Pics
Location: Bend Oregon
boot up
Old Not Bold Hiker
PostSun Dec 13, 2015 9:52 am 
My wife is a certified skin care specialist, that is heavy into researching for her expertise. (She is not a dermatologist and knows where the line of demarcation is) She just happened to have researched and answered this question for our daughter. 1 Sleep with a humidifier next to bed. 2 Extremely clean hands before putting on lotion/layered care. 3 Hydrate skin! E.g. from Amazon.com use Hyaluronic Acid serum. Just for hydration. If you don't cover this with a cream it will evaporate off. 4 (This is all at night) A thick body butter to lock in hydration over the Hyaluronic at night. Like thick Gold Bond or Eucerin or go to The Body Shop and ask. For Daytime, use thick hand cream such as Gold Bond, and reapply often especially after washing hands or getting them wet. If this doesn't work, you need to go to Dermatologist and get something like Elidel or whatever the doc recommends to get it under control, so the above will work.

friluftsliv
Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
boot up
Old Not Bold Hiker



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Posts: 4745 | TRs | Pics
Location: Bend Oregon
boot up
Old Not Bold Hiker
PostSun Dec 13, 2015 10:00 am 
meandering Wa wrote:
I would like to recommend Natures Plus Natural Beauty Cleansing barthis is technically, not a soap. It maintains an acid pH for your skin and I find it great cleaner ............Have you tried a nitrile liner ( even a nitrile exam glove) as your base layer with the kayaking gear? ......
This cleansing bar could be good for step 2 "extremely clean" in my wife's outline of care. My wife says the nitrile gloves might be good over a good layer of Gold Bond Lotion under your kayaking gloves.

friluftsliv
Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
bk
Member
Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2012
Posts: 266 | TRs | Pics
bk
Member
PostSun Dec 13, 2015 12:10 pm 
Neutrogena Hand Cream, Norwegian Formula, Fragrance Free (2 oz size). Others have sworn by this as the "only and best." Seems good and effective.

Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
Frosty
Member
Member


Joined: 30 Dec 2012
Posts: 173 | TRs | Pics
Location: A bit north of the northwest...
Frosty
Member
PostSun Dec 13, 2015 12:41 pm 
If it is worse than usual, it might be worthwhile to check out the industrial soap at work. My husband had gotten a new janitor at work and never correlated his hand rash with the timing of the switch. It was a while before he checked the instructions on the bottle, noted the dilution ratio and queried the janitor about what ratio she was using. She hadn't realized it was to be diluted...problem solved. I have never had such soft hands as I have since my daughter started making home made soap! smile.gif

Frosty, Lucky enough to live where it snows in the winter! smile.gif
Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
tmatlack
Member
Member


Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 2854 | TRs | Pics
tmatlack
Member
PostMon Dec 14, 2015 3:09 am 
All, I guess I have tried most of the advice...not sure about nitrile gloves though. The Neutrogena has a lanolin derivative, and I think lanolin might be a trigger. One dermo told me this excema can be stress related(life = lo stress recently), another said diet, and another said allergies(I get spring hay fever). It's probably all 3 mixed in with some genetic/environmental issues. I am a school teacher so heavily lotioned and/or gloved hands, especially with waxy lotions, is very messy with computer keyboards and handing out papers, etc, or just not practical. I sure do hate it in the morning when the itch comes and the healed over cracks pop open again. At least I don't get it on my feet anymore. That sucked hugely. Tom

Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
Frosty
Member
Member


Joined: 30 Dec 2012
Posts: 173 | TRs | Pics
Location: A bit north of the northwest...
Frosty
Member
PostMon Dec 14, 2015 8:32 am 
If you've had it on your feet...how often do you rinse the salt out of your neoprene booties and gloves?

Frosty, Lucky enough to live where it snows in the winter! smile.gif
Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
cascadetraverser
Member
Member


Joined: 16 Sep 2007
Posts: 1407 | TRs | Pics
cascadetraverser
Member
PostMon Dec 14, 2015 8:50 pm 
Lots of good tips above; try not to wash your hands needlessly, the soap will wash off the oils your skin needs to prevent the cracking. It may be inconvenient, but it is very hard to get the problem in check unless you lather the hands constantly with a good lotion or ointment. A stronger steroid ointment can cut the cycle of itching and cracking too. Most Docs think stress is a trigger but that is a tough nut to crack....

Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
tigermn
Member
Member


Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Posts: 9242 | TRs | Pics
Location: There...
tigermn
Member
PostWed Dec 16, 2015 11:32 am 
tmatlack wrote:
One dermo told me this excema can be stress related(life = lo stress recently), another said diet, and another said allergies(I get spring hay fever).
In my experience with doctors those are basically the 3 catch all reasons when they don't have a clue what the real reason(s) are....

Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
Traildoggie
Member
Member


Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Posts: 158 | TRs | Pics
Location: Near Arlington
Traildoggie
Member
PostWed Dec 16, 2015 5:16 pm 
I have issues with dry skin eczema.... not my hands.. using a cream called Tricalm. It works better than hydrocortisone for me. I couldn't find it locally. ordered a tube from Drugstore.com. was not prohibitively expensive, I think around $10. hands makes it suggest contact dermatitis which I'm sure was everyone's first thought.

Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
glenoid
Member
Member


Joined: 30 Oct 2012
Posts: 306 | TRs | Pics
glenoid
Member
PostWed Dec 16, 2015 6:04 pm 
Here is my two cents worth of advice...... First there are three basic types of dermatitis to the hands: 1) allergic contact dermatitis 2) Dyshidrotic eczema 3) chronic atopic hand dermatitis. Now in normal talk.... You can be in contact with something that you are allergic to. (Example, latex or rubber.) Your hands can be chronically wet and are then further broken down when the protective skin layer is trashed by soaps, chemicals etc. Or lastly you are stuck being an allergic type person with the manifestation of the allergies as a hand, behind the knees, inner elbows and feet rash. Help for all of this is similar in my opinion. 1)Avoid soap!! It cleans the skin but it takes off the layer of lipid (fat) from your skin. Recommend instead, a unscented cleansing bar. (dove). It is not a soap. Also avoid the prevalent hand sanitizers so common nowadays. The alcohol is too drying. 2) Keep the skin moist and protected pretty much all the time. Petroleum jelly is perhaps the best way to keep moisture in and chemicals out but most people hate the greasy feeling. Then use a cream frequently during the day. A protective barrier cream such as Kerodex 71 or 51, or Dermashield are great to use as they can be applied about twice a day, but keep a barrier up protecting the hands in wet and harsh chemical situations. 3)Some like to put clean cotton gloves under vinyl gloves to keep the hands from getting so much so wet. (Under paddling gloves to keep the skin at least not near the neoprene??) 4) When around chemicals and for lengthy times in wet environments, wear gloves! Do dry hands especially at the finger webs, then put on your creams. Avoiding creams with scents.5) Try to figure out if you might be in contact with something that you are truly allergic to. (Neomycin in ointments, rubber, latex, and wool are some candidates) Steroid creams can be prescribed and work great. But I believe half of the problem is prevention. Simple measures go a long way in stopping flares or at least taming them down so you don't half to be using so much of the potent steroids prescribed for these conditions. Just some hints that I have seen to be helpful. Remember though that this is free advice and you do get what you pay for!! wink.gif

Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
Frosty
Member
Member


Joined: 30 Dec 2012
Posts: 173 | TRs | Pics
Location: A bit north of the northwest...
Frosty
Member
PostThu Dec 17, 2015 9:35 am 
Note to teachers: chalk is very drying. Also if you live in areas with low winter humidity or have wood heat, get a console style humidifyer for your house. This may not be applicable to large areas of the wet coast! smile.gif

Frosty, Lucky enough to live where it snows in the winter! smile.gif
Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
Dect6
Member
Member


Joined: 27 Mar 2011
Posts: 162 | TRs | Pics
Dect6
Member
PostTue Dec 22, 2015 9:37 am 
Try Polypodium leucotomos supplements. They are harvested from ferns and is good for skin conditions. Its mainly used as a method of protecting the skin from UV by oral ingestion. Weird, i know...but they still recommend you put on some sun lotion. After taking this, i've also notice that i have better skin condition as well. Below are 2 articles that talks about this supplement. http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-1152-polypodium%20leucotomos.aspx?activeingredientid=1152&activeingredientname=polypodium%20leucotomos https://examine.com/supplements/polypodium-leucotomos/ I use to have eczema every month either on my arms and legs but since taking this supplement for a few months, i've yet to have any breakouts. The supplement i use is called HelioCare, you can get them from Amazon....$20++ for 60 capsules. Puritan's Pride do carry a version of it called Fern Block, cheaper...not sure how good it is but it seems to have the same content. Once i finish my Heliocare batch, i may try it out just to see how well it works. Good luck and if you decide to take this, do let us know how it works out for you.

Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
tmatlack
Member
Member


Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 2854 | TRs | Pics
tmatlack
Member
PostWed Dec 23, 2015 5:54 am 
Thanks again for advice. Condition in a small remission after a huge flareup from swimming in motel(stuck in E-burgh after I-90 closed)pool and chlorine dryness just jacked it up. Waxy balms seem to stay on longer...Berts Bees etc. Tom

Back to top Reply to topic Reply with quote Send private message
   All times are GMT - 8 Hours
 Reply to topic
Forum Index > Full Moon Saloon > ecxema on hands and fingers
  Happy Birthday speyguy, Bandanabraids!
Jump to:   
Search this topic:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum