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Malachai Constant Member


Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 14942 | TRs Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny
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Some locals Skied the West Gullies of Si from the top of the Haystack for the first time Dec 30. The gullies had of course been skied back in the day.
Newspaper Article
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puzzlr Mid Fork Rocks


Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 6821 | TRs Location: Stuck in the middle
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It's great that it was some folks from that community, waiting for years for the right conditions. It wasn't clear to me how far they were able to keep the skis on for -- all the way to the Little Si trail? The trailhead? Close to it?
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reststep Member


Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 4487 | TRs
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The article says they skied down to 2200 feet. I don't know what the elevation of the Little Si Trailhead is
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Malachai Constant Member


Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 14942 | TRs Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny
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Little Si TH is 500' according to Green Trails
top of Haystack is around 4100'
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DIYSteve seeking hygge


Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 12656 | TRs Location: here now
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I read that. Impressive. We've been looking at that line for 30 years.
Is he certain he's the first guy to ski it? |
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reststep Member


Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 4487 | TRs
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From the newspaper article linked in the OP
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Volken said he believes the ski descent was the first-ever from atop the Haystack. Amateur historian Lowell Skoog of Seattle, who runs alpenglow.org, a website that documents landmark achievements by ski mountaineers in the Pacific Northwest, agrees with Volken. |
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the Zachster Member


Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4763 | TRs Location: dog training
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Pretty awesome achievement!
I was hiking Mt Si on Wednesday and passed a guy coming up with a snowboard. Nothing surprises me on that trail but it did make me chuckle a bit. Now I wonder if he knew about this... Any reports of the first guy boarding off the haystack yet? 
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Bernardo Member


Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 2100 | TRs Location: out and about in the world
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The picture of them starting to ski off the Hay Stack is a classic, but am I the only one who thinks this is seriously dangerous? Turns out they survived, but can one really know that such steep snow is avalanche safe?
Slopes have collapsed after several have skied them so that is not a conclusive indicator. |
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reststep Member


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The article says they belayed to ski from the top.
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Bernardo Member


Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 2100 | TRs Location: out and about in the world
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The article says the first two were belayed, but third was not. |
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Malachai Constant Member


Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 14942 | TRs Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny
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Yes it was seriously dangerous, the difference is that those participating also knew that and did their best to minimize danger. They were experienced and had been planning this for a long time. They were not asking on a web forum if this was a good idea.
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Bernardo Member


Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 2100 | TRs Location: out and about in the world
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If you are referring to my question, it was rhetorical. I know it wasn't safe. The real question is, is it ethical? Actually that's also mostly a rhetorical question which everyone has to answer for themselves. I do find it ironic that in one thread we are reminded of winter hazards and lament a death, in another people who risked their lives and survived are lauded. |
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Snowbrushy Member


Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 6679 | TRs Location: South Sound
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Bern, I saw the short video from the top and it's fairly routine terrain for expert skiers, which I'm not. It's the unknown conditions and avalanche dangers that kept them waiting for 10 years to finally ski it. They did their homework. |
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ale_capone Member


Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Posts: 620 | TRs
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Pretty neat for all the parties. Seen a few mt si reports now. Didn't read the article, did the party 'claim' a first decent, or did others do it for them? Either way, I have lots of respect for Trevor k. He's been around, and knows his stuff. I would hardly put him in the high risk category.
But life's a risk, laud yourself if you are alive to read this. |
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Backpacker Joe NWH Joe-Bob


Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23625 | TRs Location: Cle Elum
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Now we can add Krazie Skiers to Kraizie Klimbers!
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