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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7677 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
Facebook is currently blowing up about their PUD bills being double, triple, and sometimes quadruple. This has come about since they went to monthly billing instead of every two months.
Apparently they only read the meter once out of the two months and the month they don't read the meter they estimate the bill according to what it was last year. One person commented that they have a house that was completely empty with no one using utilities other than a few lights, and their bill was over $200 since it was based on last years usage.
Something seems off here, anyone having similar problems?
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CC cascade curmudgeon
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Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:08 pm
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Chief Joseph wrote: | Facebook is currently blowing up about their PUD bills being double, triple, and sometimes quadruple. This has come about since they went to monthly billing instead of every two months.
Apparently they only read the meter once out of the two months and the month they don't read the meter they estimate the bill according to what it was last year. One person commented that they have a house that was completely empty with no one using utilities other than a few lights, and their bill was over $200 since it was based on last years usage.
Something seems off here, anyone having similar problems? |
I don't get the problem here. The next time they read the meter they adjust the bill. They are not charging people for electricity they don't use. Chelan PUD estimates my usage for a six or seven month stretch every winter, it's not a problem. Also, the PUD is not "they," it's "you," the customers own it. If it was a private utility you'd be paying way more for electricity. Count your blessings.
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7677 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
CC wrote: | I don't get the problem here. |
Well then you are likely not one of those who's bills have gone sky high since the monthly billing took effect.
http://jessejones.com/story/new-billing-shocks-snohomish-county-pud-customers/
Here is a quote from just one of many dissatisfied customers... "Same here, my boyfriend and I have had the same issue at our house. Our 2 month bill was the same amount as our one month bill. They are guessing how much we've used instead of checking the meter.".
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Randito Snarky Member
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:59 am
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The example in the Jessie article is a case where the house was unoccupied the prior year. When electricity is used to heat I would expect a big jump from a "above freezing " to a "cozy" thermostat setting.
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Schroder Member
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 6696 | TRs | Pics Location: on the beach |
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:59 am
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Over here on Whidbey, PSE has replaced the meters with electronic ones. No meter readers. They're all connected to the computer that sends out the bill.
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Olympic Hiker Member
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Schroder wrote: | Over here on Whidbey, PSE has replaced the meters with electronic ones. No meter readers. They're all connected to the computer that sends out the bill. |
Same here...electronic ones. Though the power company that supplies my power say that they send a person once a year to check the numbers on the meter to make it matches the numbers sent in electronicly. I get billed monthly for my power consumption...a little over $65 for December.
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Alpine Pedestrian Member
Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 188 | TRs | Pics Location: Stevens Pass |
As CC said, "The next time they read the meter they adjust the bill. They are not charging people for electricity they don't use." The higher bill is a short-term shock. Will customers also be furious when the next meter-read bill shows a very low bill or even a credit? The bill will reflect actual usage over time. How many ways does the PUD have to explain the alternate-monthly estimating before people get it?
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Slugman It’s a Slugfest!
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:30 am
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They should have a meeting to explain the new method.....
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7677 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
Well, apparently this only has happened to non-hikers, not surprising.
"My bill was twice as high in December than it ever had been. 400 something instead of 120 usually.".
"I agree bc I haven't been home for two weeks and my bill is three x then when I was home.".
"Since they switched to monthly it has increased greatly. Mine was about 180 every other month. This month it was 147.".
"Yes, it's to high! I'm paying an extra $150 per month. Almost double my PUD Bill. My kids gone more than ever and I work all day. Nobody home most of the week and weekend, but yet my bill continues to increase each month.".
"My bill was $175, usually $50.".
"One ok bill the next crazy high!".
So, I guess all these people and many more have it wrong and you guys are correct? Again, not surprising.
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Slugman It’s a Slugfest!
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:43 am
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We don't fall for media brainwashing based on the complaints of a few confused people. Even the article you copped those quotes from explains it simply and completely.
Of course if you want to panic over nothing, go ahead. I have Snohomish PUD, and they are an excellent service provider at a very reasonable price.
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mike Member
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:56 am
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Chief Joseph wrote: | So, I guess all these people and many more have it wrong and you guys are correct? Again, not surprising. |
All you have to do is go out and read your own meter and do the math. It also doesn't hurt to check your property for faulty equipment etc. which may be spinning the meter. e.g. a friend had a septic line break in the sump tank so the pump was running continuously.
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Sore Feet Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 6304 | TRs | Pics Location: Out There, Somewhere |
My bills look to be about half of what they were with the bi-monthly cycle. Haven't noticed anything at all out of the ordinary so far. Maybe it depends on what kind of meter you have? My house is only 4 years old so it may have a smart meter (not sure, too lazy to go look).
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Riverside Laker Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 2818 | TRs | Pics
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The PUD pays for electricity. Go solar!
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marta wildflower maven
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:53 pm
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I just pulled my bills and compared to last year. I don't see anything out of order. Every two months - when they read the meter - you get the comparison with the previous year - just as they did when they billed every two months. The two months ending Dec was up about 7% but then the temperatures were colder in 2015 than 2014 (40 low in 2014 and 37 low 2015).
You notice - that Jessie didn't really do anything special for the person on the video. It was all informational. It is just change.
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7677 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
Well, apparently us hikers are immune to problems with this new billing system.
I myself think it is ridiculous for them to go to monthly billing without also reading the meters every month, instead, they "estimate" the amount.
There seem to be an awful lot of people having massive increases in their bills and I find it hard to believe that they are all FOS...in spite of the comments of the all knowing NWHiker community.
http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/2015/11/10/utilitybillproblems/75546332/
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