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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
Ok, for whatever reason in the last few years Ive developed insomnia. Sometimes I cant fall asleep. Even if I can fall asleep I always wake up 4-5 hours later. I dont get it. Nothing helps or works. Only prescription sleep meds make any difference and who wants to rely on those?
Well, I found something that works, and isnt drugs. Its called thed Fisher Wallace Simulator. http://www.fisherwallace.com/
Its been working great. I use it at 11m and at 11pm. So far its helping me fall asleep, and helping me stay that way. It isnt cheap, but I dont care. If it helps me sleep Im there.
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
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flatsqwerl Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 1049 | TRs | Pics Location: tacoma |
how long have you used it?
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lookout bob WTA proponent.....
Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 3043 | TRs | Pics Location: wta work while in between lookouts |
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:30 am
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very interesting Joe....thanks for sharing!
"Altitude is its own reward"
John Jerome ( from "On Mountains")
"Altitude is its own reward"
John Jerome ( from "On Mountains")
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
Ive just been using it a week now, but it seems to be working. Im hopping for more the longer I use it.
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
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Bedivere Why Do Witches Burn?
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 7464 | TRs | Pics Location: The Hermitage |
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:37 am
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Can I just use a stud finder instead?
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horse with no name Member
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 89 | TRs | Pics
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Why don't you try exercise. I ride my bike an hour after work each day, about 18 miles total, and have no trouble sleeping. Before, I had sleep problems like you describe. An hour in the gym should do the same thing.
Plus you get the health, weight loss and endorphin benefits.
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
horse with no name wrote: | Why don't you try exercise. I ride my bike an hour after work each day, about 18 miles total, and have no trouble sleeping. Before, I had sleep problems like you describe. An hour in the gym should do the same thing.
Plus you get the health, weight loss and endorphin benefits. |
You are of course presupposing that I haven't tried that! Nothing up until now has worked. I hope this continues.
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
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RichP Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 5634 | TRs | Pics Location: here |
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:24 pm
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Bedivere wrote: | Can I just use a stud finder instead?
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If it works, it works. Even a placebo can be a powerful thing.
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AR 724
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 1514 | TRs | Pics Location: Saratoga Passage |
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:34 pm
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You probably could rewire the Zircon to do the same thing. Step up the voltage of a 9V and deliver pulses whenever a stud comes around...wait, what the hell are we doing again?
...wait...are we just going to hang here or go hiking?
...wait...are we just going to hang here or go hiking?
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contour5 Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 2963 | TRs | Pics
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:02 pm
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Glad to hear you've found a solution to your sleep troubles. Hope it continues to work for you.
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I'm Pysht Member
Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 517 | TRs | Pics Location: Pacific NW |
Goodnight Backpacker Joe...
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horse with no name Member
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 89 | TRs | Pics
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Backpacker Joe wrote: | You are of course presupposing that I haven't tried that! Nothing up until now has worked. I hope this continues. |
Have you tried getting laid?
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Brucester Member
Joined: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 1102 | TRs | Pics Location: Greenwood |
Anyone work nights during the week and then try bouncing back to day schedule on weekends?
This past weekend I couldn't get to sleep at all to even try to get back to the day schedule. It's like my clock was all messed up. I had to choose being tired all day or getting the 7-8 I almost always need. Sleep won but I missed out on all the sun. Bummer.
Usually I fall asleep within 15 minutes. Not this weekend.
Maybe I should have tried night hiking? Anyone up for that?
Off to work....
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rhughes Painter
Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 217 | TRs | Pics Location: Snohomish |
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:25 pm
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Backpacker Joe I hope this works for you. I have bouts of insomnia that I haven't been successful in eliminating so I'll be watching for your reports on how this works for you long term.
I did a bit of looking on line for information about the Fisher Wallace Stimulator and came up with two articles that seem to treat the device fairly.
One is on the Scientific American site. Look in the article under the heading "Cranial Electrotherapy Stimulation."
Another article is mentioned in the Scientific American piece titled "Fisher Wallace Stimulator: Too Good to be True?" The URL for that is: http://horgansciseminar.blogspot.com/2015/02/fisher-wallace-stimulator-too-good-to.html.
Unfortunately in my pursuit of medical knowledge I often come across treatments and devices that turn out to be bogus so I find that the best sources of information are reliable journals and narratives from people I know (or know of).
Best wishes for continuing positive results for you.
rhughes Painter
Author of North Cascades Beautiful: An Artist's View
Author of 100 Beautiful Views of Glacier National Park
RoyEHughes.com
rhughes Painter
Author of North Cascades Beautiful: An Artist's View
Author of 100 Beautiful Views of Glacier National Park
RoyEHughes.com
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tigermn Member
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:49 pm
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