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PostSat Nov 05, 2016 11:55 am 
1/4 mile past, road is impassable

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PostSat Nov 05, 2016 12:09 pm 
Washout, snow or tree?

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PostSat Nov 05, 2016 12:12 pm 
RandyHiker wrote:
Washout, snow or tree?
This is according to CleElum Ranger. Told me a impassable washout. I had / have plans in that area tomorrow

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PostSat Nov 05, 2016 8:16 pm 
Thanks for the heads up.

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PostSun Nov 06, 2016 2:23 am 
If you get a look at it please post a report with a photo.

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PostSun Nov 06, 2016 7:22 pm 
This surprises me quite a bit, the road is basically flat at that point, there's nothing to erode down a hill. I would be really amazed to see a washout that truly makes that road impassable even to high clearance 4x4. Oh well, only a few more weeks until it'll be closed anyways.

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PostSun Nov 06, 2016 8:02 pm 
puzzlr wrote:
If you get a look at it please post a report with a photo.
Here you go "Impassable" road section It's not a typical washout as we know it, but rather a large and deep mud bog. Impassable? No Impassable to the average vehicle? Yes Did, or would I attempt in my 4WD truck? No No barricades to prevent this from getting worse. Some vehicles have attempted to make their own paths around it on both sides of the official road. That entire are is extremely saturated and getting your vehicle stuck is probable
Green tree bow in the mud. Evidence somebody was using for traction to get unstuck
Scatter Creek
Strange to see ghost town trailheads. Especially these 2 as they are so popular. It was a beautiful day up there today and nobody around I expected to see a couple dozen vehicles parked all willy-nilly at, or near, Scatter Creek There were 2 just before Scatter Creek and I was the only vehicle beyond Scatter. It's a 1.8 mile walk to Paddy-Go-Easy Pass Trailhead and a 3.2 mile walk to Cathedral Trailhead

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PostSun Nov 06, 2016 8:36 pm 
Scatter creek. Thanks for the pics.

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PostSun Nov 06, 2016 8:57 pm 
Thanks for the photos. Mud boggers will love that.

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PostSun Nov 06, 2016 9:05 pm 
That last pic should be in a commercial. Just taking the dogs out for a walk is all. Classic!

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PostSun Nov 06, 2016 10:15 pm 
This happened a couple years ago. Wasn't as bad, or as big, but man was it deep on that right side. Highly advise not attempting to go through, unless you have a lifted 4x4. If I remember correctly, there are some hidden boulders down in there too. Someone may have thrown them in for traction, unintentionally creating a real hazard for anyone trying to make it through.

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PostSun Nov 06, 2016 10:17 pm 
A review of older USGS maps -- specifically where the creek crosses the road -- suggests that Scatter Creek has had several significant course changes over the years.

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PostMon Nov 07, 2016 8:16 am 
I see, yes that mud pit does form periodically in that spot. I saw a tow truck in there pulling a 4x4 out of it once a year or two back, and the driver said it's not that uncommon of a call.

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PostMon Nov 07, 2016 11:57 am 
Very helpful -- thanks for the report. No doubt some with big rigs and winches will deliberately get stuck for the fun of extracting themselves.

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