[PorcupinePhobia]

If the idea is to restore some "balance" by putting the apex predator back in the mix, it would be interesting to read the impact statement(?), or what change is anticipated. Hadn't considered the ESA angle of "out of their hands", that's interesting. Either way, I still feel very much in the LazySelfishHikerNoGrizzlyPlease club... I mean, a can of bear spray is 10oz. Basically UL zealot suicide. I'd have to move to New Zealand.

[gb]

[iron]

sounds really awesome to hike and yell and carry a can in your hand the whole time. my kind of fun. //sarcasm let me know how that works for you while traversing steep terrain.

[JVesquire]

The time horizon for this project is 60 to 100 years by NPS's estimates. It is unlikely any of us will encounter a bear because of this in our lifetime. That doesn't mean people shouldn't have an opinion about it one way or the other, but it isn't time to freak out yet.

[gb]

[Chief Joseph]

[The Lead Dog]

There is no reason except a "Romantic" fantasy that we can go back a 150 Years and make everything as it was. When the same "notion" was devised in Montana and Idaho with wolves it has a huge impact, on not only livestock but also the Elk and Deer populations . Ask the ranchers and hunters of those states how it worked out for them. There is a REASON that Grizzlies are not found in any numbers in the North Cascades.

[Chief Joseph]

Exactly Lead Dog...another example is here in N Idaho, they want to protect and re-introduce the Caribou here and have closed several snowmobile and cross country ski areas in order to protect them. What they fail to comprehend, is that the Caribou much prefer being north in Canada where the terrain better suits their needs. A few stragglers roam down this way across the boarder in Summer for whatever reason, but definitely not their preferred habitat.

[timberghost]

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[Chief Joseph]

I heard that wasp-hornet spray actually works better than the traditional bear spray, evidently it sprays further, more accurately and has the same effect. Anyone else heard of this?

[I'm Pysht]

Getting killed by a bear doesn't worry me much, it's the mauling, gnawing, bone crunching, flaying, gashing, and slashing that's troubling.

[The Lead Dog]

Don't you think that if Grizzlies wanted to live in the North Cascades they would. Or are they waiting for a Helicopter ride in a net. Or riding in the back of a truck in a cage. Darted and confused. Dumped in a place they have never been? They don't need our "permission" to be where they don't want to be. Leave them alone!!!

[RumiDude]

We want wilderness but apparently some don't include wildlife as part of that wilderness. To the degree that wilderness is missing its full spectrum of wildlife, to that degree it is not wilderness.