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JonnyQuest Member
Joined: 10 Dec 2013 Posts: 593 | TRs | Pics
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They paved paradise...
Of course, my recollection was that paradise, at least in the vicinity of the road, equated to dumped vehicles and trash, illegal / elicit squatting, ATV and motorbike overuse, shooting, vandalism, and such.
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Tom Admin
Joined: 15 Dec 2001 Posts: 17835 | TRs | Pics
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:56 pm
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They didn't pave paradise. They gated it.
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JonnyQuest Member
Joined: 10 Dec 2013 Posts: 593 | TRs | Pics
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I know - so much for weekend trips to Crawford. At least for me...
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
JonnyQuest wrote: | I know - so much for weekend trips to Crawford. At least for me... |
Ya, I did that many times. The bastards at the FS gated the road because they didnt like the idea that you could breach the CENTER of the ALW are in a couple hours, when it took a day + all the other routes..... Buggers.
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
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Bedivere Why Do Witches Burn?
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 7464 | TRs | Pics Location: The Hermitage |
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:08 pm
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
Im surprised that nobody (YET) has gotten a hold of a key to said gate and sold copies of it. Id surly have purchased one.
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
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reststep Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 4757 | TRs | Pics
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:26 pm
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Say you did have a key, how far past Goldmyer could you drive?
"The mountains are calling and I must go." - John Muir
"The mountains are calling and I must go." - John Muir
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joker seeker
Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 7953 | TRs | Pics Location: state of confusion |
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:54 pm
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Tom wrote: | They didn't pave paradise. They gated it. |
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Randito Snarky Member
Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 9495 | TRs | Pics Location: Bellevue at the moment. |
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:21 pm
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Backpacker Joe wrote: | Im surprised that nobody (YET) has gotten a hold of a key to said gate and sold copies of it. Id surly have purchased one. |
The last time I rode up that road (with a key holder driving) speed was about the same as riding a MTB.
BTW caretaker positions with the Goldmyer non-profit are available
http://www.goldmyer.org/caretaking.php
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
joker wrote: | Tom wrote: | They didn't pave paradise. They gated it. |
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You changed your post! As far as I know to the end! There are quartz mine interests that (along with Goldmeyer) dictate the issues with the road. As far as I know they are responsible for road maintenance to the end. Frankly, the end isnt that far from a couple quartz mine parking lots.
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
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"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
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Dave Workman Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 3699 | TRs | Pics Location: In the woods, by the big tree |
RandyHiker wrote: | What was the level of gunshot noise? In the '80s the MF upstream from the concrete bridge was a shooting gallery on weekends with near constant sounds of gunfire. The crummy road meant almost zero patrols by law enforcement.
I'm hoping that the hordes of hikers enabled by the paved road (even the ones with mangy off-leash, barking and pooping dogs) will mean better enforcement of the target shooting ban
So while you were annoyed by the garbage left behind by some thoughtless jerks -- was it at least fairly quiet in the valley? |
Bear in mind that HUNTING with firearms is still allowed up there.
"The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted." - D.H. Lawrence
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Dave Workman Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 3699 | TRs | Pics Location: In the woods, by the big tree |
NacMacFeegle wrote: | The Alpine Lakes region should have been made into a National Park long ago IMHO. |
Washington has enough national parks.
The Alpine Lakes offers opportunities for early high country deer hunting, grouse and small game hunting opportunities. It has been this way for decades, even before the place was made a wilderness.
"The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted." - D.H. Lawrence
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Dave Workman Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 3699 | TRs | Pics Location: In the woods, by the big tree |
"The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted." - D.H. Lawrence
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Randito Snarky Member
Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 9495 | TRs | Pics Location: Bellevue at the moment. |
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Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:33 pm
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Dave Workman wrote: | RandyHiker wrote: | What was the level of gunshot noise? ... was it at least fairly quiet in the valley? |
Bear in mind that HUNTING with firearms is still allowed up there. |
IME, The noise impact of hunting is 100x less than that of plinking / target shooting.
Hunters know that sound of gunfire can spook their quarry -- so for the most part hunters try to make every round count.
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