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PostTue Jun 20, 2017 9:20 am 
I had done Big Snow from Myrtle Lake about 10 years ago and have wanted to try the more standard (but longer) Hardscrabble approach since. Left Seattle at 8:50am and got to the Dutch Miller parking area at 10:30. The new pavement on the first half of the Middle Fork Road is so smooth! The second half is rough as always, high clearance mandatory. Biked the 7-mile gated section of the road and got to the trailhead at an obvious pullout at noon. The trail was easy to follow most of the way to the lower lake, with not too much blowdown. The talus section was well marked with cairns. Got to the lake at 1pm with patchy snow around the talus making for some treacherous holes. I stuck to the rock as much as possible. The start of the route to the upper lake, just to the left of the waterfall, is marked with some giant cairns. From here snow was intermittent and there seemed to be a number of vague paths. Got to the upper lake at 2pm, skirted it on the left, and headed up, maybe slightly too soon, as some veggie belays were necessary. It was mostly solid snow from here up to the gap at 5760' that provides access to the north side of the ridge that leads to the summit and forms the upper curve of this giant question mark shaped route. I climbed Pt 6131 thinking it was part of the ridge but should have just gone around the north side. Eventually I hopped up to the crest of the ridge and briefly had to walk along the knife edge snow. It was fairly soft though and the slopes are mild. Made it to the summit at 4pm and hung out for a bit. Had a leisurely descent, reaching my bike around 7pm. Rattled a few brain cells loose on the ride down, which took less than an hour. A thoroughly enjoyable day, and with the cloud cover I didn't even get sunburned.
1. Lower Hardscrabble Lake
1. Lower Hardscrabble Lake
2. Upper Hardscrabble Lake
2. Upper Hardscrabble Lake
3. South ridge of Big Snow
3. South ridge of Big Snow
4. Overcoat, Lemah
4. Overcoat, Lemah
5. Gold Lake, I think
5. Gold Lake, I think
6. Otter Point, Hinman, Daniel, Bears Breast. That bump on the left might be Wild Goat
6. Otter Point, Hinman, Daniel, Bears Breast. That bump on the left might be Wild Goat
7. NE Ridge
7. NE Ridge
8. Overcoat, Chimney, Lemah, Chikamin
8. Overcoat, Chimney, Lemah, Chikamin
9. Hester Lake
9. Hester Lake
10. Dorothy Lake
10. Dorothy Lake
11. Rainier
11. Rainier
12. Point 6131
12. Point 6131
13. Summit Chief
13. Summit Chief
14. Waterfall
14. Waterfall
15. Maybe Burnt Boot in the distance
15. Maybe Burnt Boot in the distance
16. Tempting to go NNW from lower Hardscrabble but it probably doesn't go
16. Tempting to go NNW from lower Hardscrabble but it probably doesn't go
17. Waterfall
17. Waterfall

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PostTue Jun 20, 2017 11:25 am 
neek wrote:
14. Waterfall
14. Waterfall
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PostTue Jun 20, 2017 11:54 am 
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PostTue Jun 20, 2017 12:52 pm 
neek wrote:
10. Dorothy Lake
10. Dorothy Lake
You had some great views! Such a strong effort. up.gif ~z
neek wrote:
13. Summit Chief
13. Summit Chief
This shot embiggens nicely. Very dramatic in the distance.

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PostTue Jun 20, 2017 1:29 pm 
Wow beautiful photos! I did a much tamer hike up the middle fork trail recently, but agree, the new road is awesome (at least as far as it goes). Is there much area to camp at the hardscrabble lakes?

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PostTue Jun 20, 2017 7:55 pm 
Awesome trip! I really liked this area. Nice photos. up.gif
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Is there much area to camp at the hardscrabble lakes?
I did this route last year and camped near lower hardscrabble lake. The terrain is really rocky and I had to search all over for a flat spot for my 1 man tent. It would be tough to find room for a larger tent, but not impossible. Upper hardscrabble lake has several flat dirt camp sites that you can tell have been used for camping. This would be the better place to camp IMO, or go a bit further towards the summit and camp on the granite slabs once the snow has melted out. Lots of options, but the lower lake is pretty rocky.

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PostTue Jun 20, 2017 8:05 pm 
Great report and pics. Thanks for the beta Neek.

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PostTue Jun 20, 2017 11:56 pm 
Nice work doing all that in a day from the Dingford trailhead. Two days earlier I was pulling Scotch Broom in that wide spot in the road where the trail starts -- maybe you noticed the big piles we left there. RE "16. Tempting to go NNW from lower Hardscrabble but it probably doesn't go" -- I've wondered that myself many times. Great photos. That bump on the left is Wild Goat in the photo where you wondered about it.

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PostWed Jun 21, 2017 12:36 am 
puzzlr wrote:
Two days earlier I was pulling Scotch Broom in that wide spot in the road where the trail starts -- maybe you noticed the big piles we left there
In fact I did and wondered if that was your doing. Thanks for all the work you do back there!

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PostWed Jun 21, 2017 4:53 am 
neek wrote:
16. Tempting to go NNW from lower Hardscrabble but it probably doesn't go
16. Tempting to go NNW from lower Hardscrabble but it probably doesn't go
I've descended this route after climbing the East Buttress (a fun route BTW) way back in the 80's. The route descends from the snow saddle at the top left of the picture down and lookers right on the snow ramp above the cliffs to a point just out of view where one can down climb into the main central gully. We did not rappel; I recall it being slabby 3rd class or maybe slightly harder. Very quick descent and made for an easy day trip at least back then as we could drive to the trailhead. Fantastic pictures, love that area.

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PostWed Jun 21, 2017 10:24 pm 
Great job! We were across the valley a few days before and were wondering what it looked like up there this time of year.

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PostWed Jun 21, 2017 10:41 pm 
Strong work, and thanks for doing Excelsior with me today so I could test my foot. up.gif up.gif

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PostFri Jun 23, 2017 8:20 am 
neek wrote:
16. Tempting to go NNW from lower Hardscrabble but it probably doesn't go
16. Tempting to go NNW from lower Hardscrabble but it probably doesn't go
I thought the same thing when i was up there. Carl Dreisbach's Middle Fork Guide says it goes. Hikerbiker says it goes. If i ever make it back there I'll head up this way. Looks fun.

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PostFri Jun 23, 2017 8:39 am 
Picture 10. Is that Myrtle lake in the lower left?

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PostFri Jun 23, 2017 10:09 am 
up.gif Luv that route. Good on you for doing it as a day trip out of Dingford. Yup, pic 5 is Gold Lake.

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