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PostSat Nov 11, 2017 8:59 am 
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Here comes part two of the fee plan.   "Implement sustainable operations embracing fair,
efficient and convenient fee collection and strategic use of the collected"


Grrrrrrrr.  Zinke's goal is to hand over our National treasures to corporations.  This is the reason
behind the proposed $70 day use fees.  Defund the system make sure it does not work,
convince us that it is broken.  Piss people off and make them all too happy to have it handed
over to private interests under the guise of "Implement sustainable operations embracing fair, efficient and convenient fee collection and strategic use of the collected"


https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/secretary-zinke-announces-creation-made-america-recreation-advisory-committee
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PostSat Nov 11, 2017 9:02 am 
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ranger rock wrote:
https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/secretary-zinke-announces-creation-made-america-recreation-advisory-committee

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PostSat Nov 11, 2017 9:39 am 
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Ranger Rock wrote:
Zinke's goal is to hand over our National treasures to corporations.  This is the reason
behind the proposed $70 day use fees.  Defund the system make sure it does not work,
convince us that it is broken.  Piss people off and make them all too happy to have it handed
over to private interests under the guise of "Implement sustainable operations embracing fair, efficient and convenient fee collection and strategic use of the collected"

You left out the part about "wrapping it up in the flag" and "American entrepreneurism".

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PostSat Nov 11, 2017 4:18 pm 
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ranger rock wrote:
Zinke's goal is to hand over our National treasures to corporations


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PostSat Nov 11, 2017 6:46 pm 
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So would you be ok with the Outback El Capitan? Or the Tostitios Mt. Rainier? Or better yet, the Roto-Rooter Grand Canyon? Selling the naming rights for publicly-funded stadiums is bad enough; I'd much prefer to lay off some tactical contractors or deny a few F-35 purchases and have my national treasures stay corporate-free.

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PostSat Nov 11, 2017 7:19 pm 
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yeah its all a conspiracy to sell the Grand Canyon to Halliburton

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PostSat Nov 11, 2017 7:50 pm 
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Don't waste your time arguing about it on an unrelated forum, comments can be sent here:

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You may submit comments and/or nominations by any of the following methods:

Mail or hand-carry nominations to Teri Austin, Associate Director for Business Services, National Park Service, Office of Business Services, 1849 C Street, NW, MS 2717, Washington, DC 20240; or email nominations to: teresa_austin@nps.gov
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PostSun Nov 12, 2017 8:16 am 
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MyFootHurts wrote:
a conspiracy to sell the Grand Canyon to.....

Delaware North is the name you're looking for.

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PostSun Nov 12, 2017 8:48 am 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/opinion/sunday/the-gradual-selling-of-america-the-beautiful.html
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PostSun Nov 12, 2017 9:07 am 
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RandyHiker wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/opinion/sunday/the-gradual-selling-of-america-the-beautiful.html

And not a single square inch of a national park has been sold..
I worked at Haleakala National Park once. They day after the 2000 election people were all bent out of shape and said that GWB was going to drill oil wells at the summit. I asked if there was oil under Haleakala and they looked at me like I was the stupid one.

Update: Its 2017 and there are still no oil wells at Haleakala.
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PostSun Nov 12, 2017 9:25 am 
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Yeah. Because  of some idiot tourists in Hawaii,  we  shouldn't be at all concerned about the stated intentions  of the  current Secretary of the Interior, which  indeed seem  rather aligned with  the goals of the Sagebrush Rebellion folks. Nor his and his adminstrations actions  to  date,  which include stating clearly their plan for re-opening land, land that  many  of us treasure after visiting, to various forms of extractive exploitation. And a plan which even  the  local chamber of commerce opposes.

Yeah, that Haleakala story is  cute, but I hope you  can  see the logical flaw in suggesting it in any way discounts concerns about what Zinke and crew are up  to.
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PostSun Nov 12, 2017 9:25 am 
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MyFootHurts wrote:
And not a single square inch of a national park has been sold..
I worked at Haleakala National Park once. They day after the 2000 election people were all bent out of shape and said that GWB was going to drill oil wells at the summit. I asked if there was oil under Haleakala and they looked at me like I was the stupid one.

Update: Its 2017 and there are still no oil wells at Haleakala.

I don't know why anybody would want to waste money drilling for oil in Hawaii-- except perhaps to distract attention away from where they actually wanted to perform oil exploration... 

G.W.Bush did grant a lot of new oil leases, some of which Obama canceled.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29017638/ns/us_news-environment/t/bush-era-energy-drilling-leases-utah-canceled/

I expect the current administration to grant leases at a more rapid pace, with less environmental review and on terms more favorable to oil companies-- unless they are just too busy tweeting and/or invested in reducing oil supplies to drive prices up and increase oil profits for non US suppliers.
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PostSun Nov 12, 2017 10:00 am 
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No they weren't "idiot tourists", they were other NPS employees.
The same people who gave interpretive talks about park geology and biology were hysterical that the volcano was going to sold, drilled and strip mined for imaginary resources. But it didn't matter because it would  all be underwater by now anyway from global warming.

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I don't know why anybody would want to waste money drilling for oil in Hawaii-- except perhaps to distract attention away from where they actually wanted to perform oil exploration...   

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I do have some cute stories from when I worked there though.
I was in the entrance booth collecting fees and this cute chick asked "So what's there to see here?"
I told her "Not much after you leave this booth wink.gif "
She didn't get it  shakehead.gif
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PostSun Nov 12, 2017 11:02 am 
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Employees or tourists, the lack of logic there remains...
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PostSun Nov 12, 2017 11:08 am 
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There were and are proposals for drilling volcanoes for energy particularly geothermal energy.

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