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D. Inscho
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D. Inscho
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 Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:13 am |
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Due to ongoing damage by skiers and snowboarders, the lookout is no longer available as a shelter from November through May. Travelers are advised to travel self-contained.
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The key to a successful trip is to do the planning during work hours. -- John Muir
“My most memorable hikes can be classified as 'Shortcuts that Backfired'.” --Ed Abbey
http://david-inscho.smugmug.com/
The key to a successful trip is to do the planning during work hours. -- John Muir
“My most memorable hikes can be classified as 'Shortcuts that Backfired'.” --Ed Abbey
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Foist
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:54 am |
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Good for you for taking a stand, and thanks for all your hard work.
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Matt
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Matt
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:09 am |
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Oh, that's quite disappointing, but I support the decision if it's necessary to protect the building.
“As beacons mountains burned at evening.” J.R.R. Tolkien
“As beacons mountains burned at evening.” J.R.R. Tolkien
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Schroder
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Schroder
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:25 am |
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They trash Winchester but not Park Butte?
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mbravenboer
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David posted some photos of damage on Flickr earlier this year:
 Skier damage  Shutters were propped open during snow storm.  Storm door hinge
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Rigafari
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:05 pm |
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Bummer. Somebody was a jackass. Do you know for a fact it was a skier or snowboarder? I know thats the majority to the hut in winter but I am curious how you know.
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Matt
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Matt
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:28 pm |
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I'd guess the issue is winter use, not what kind of travel method people used. Trying to force the fixtures open when they're covered in snow or ice, or leaving them open during storms, would cause damage.
“As beacons mountains burned at evening.” J.R.R. Tolkien
“As beacons mountains burned at evening.” J.R.R. Tolkien
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Stefan
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:30 pm |
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Do snowmobilers typically make the extra effort to walk up to the lookout from the lakes?
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lookout bob
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lookout bob
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:41 pm |
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It is not unexpected. People are such jackasses where fire lookouts are concerned. They rarely see beyond their own needs and harm these historic structures. What a bummer. David....I am now retired and would be happy to help restore Winchester if my services are needed. I never met a fire lookout I didn't like.
"Altitude is its own reward"
John Jerome ( from "On Mountains")
"Altitude is its own reward"
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joker
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:49 pm |
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That sucks. This is why we can't have nice things. I'd pitch in on repair work - there could be worse places to put in some service...
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John Mac
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:43 pm |
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Bob, Keep me in mind if you and David decide to do some repairs.
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D. Inscho
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D. Inscho
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:11 pm |
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| Schroder wrote: | | They trash Winchester but not Park Butte? |
PBLO dominated mainly by snow machinists who do not overnight.
| Quote: | | Bummer. Somebody was a jackass. Do you know for a fact it was a skier or snowboarder? I know thats the majority to the hut in winter but I am curious how you know. |
More than just one. The damage is annual:broken windows, damaged storm door and interior door, threshold kicked to bits by ski boots, crap all over snowfield despite blue bag availability. Skiers/snowboarders, because they use their gear to prop the shutters, heedless of snow-loading, or wind that shimmies the gear loose to crash back through a window. Years of this. Skiers/snowboarders do not care about Winchester's 80+ year history; it's just a "hut" to them.
The shutter was repaired and the storm door re-mounted over a couple of maintenance visits, but that repair work interferes with my ability to do constantly needed painting.
 All fixed
http://david-inscho.smugmug.com/
The key to a successful trip is to do the planning during work hours. -- John Muir
“My most memorable hikes can be classified as 'Shortcuts that Backfired'.” --Ed Abbey
http://david-inscho.smugmug.com/
The key to a successful trip is to do the planning during work hours. -- John Muir
“My most memorable hikes can be classified as 'Shortcuts that Backfired'.” --Ed Abbey
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Opus
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:54 pm |
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I'd also pitch in for a work party. I finally visited it this year and it's a great lookout. I'm at least useful for hauling stuff up there.
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Yana
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Yana
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:13 pm |
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I don't mean to be a pessimist, but given the annual abuse you describe, would a closure actually have any effect? I'm guessing there are not a lot of resources for enforcement.
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Randito
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Randito
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:45 pm |
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Part of the problem is these structures are designed to be battened down during the winter -- not opened.
For a winter use hut -- we need things like this south of the 50th parallel
All of those BC huts have a per person per night fee ($10 - $12 CDN) and a group of volunteers that help maintain them.
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