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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 12:57 pm 
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Just_Some_Hiker wrote:
Banning solo climbers will alleviate the burdens of the Napalese people how?

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Nepal is a poor, backwater country

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I'm tired of this attitude. Americans americansamericans ra RA RAH AMERICANS AMURACAHNS UUURRGGGH

But then...

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Stop making us the bad guys.

Things that make you go hmm.
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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 1:08 pm 
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Doppelganger wrote:
Just_Some_Hiker wrote:
Banning solo climbers will alleviate the burdens of the Napalese people how?

Just_Some_Hiker wrote:
Nepal is a poor, backwater country

Just_Some_Hiker wrote:
I'm tired of this attitude. Americans americansamericans ra RA RAH AMERICANS AMURACAHNS UUURRGGGH

But then...

Just_Some_Hiker wrote:
Stop making us the bad guys.

Things that make you go hmm.

Am I a stereotypical American bad guy for pointing out the fact that Nepal is a poor, backwater country on the verge of becoming a failed state?
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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 1:40 pm 
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Am I a stereotypical American bad guy for pointing out the fact that Nepal is a poor, backwater country on the verge of becoming a failed state?

Probably not. I do think you might have a case of the entitlements, but a few doses of perspective should clear that up.
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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 2:04 pm 
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That's fair enough but I don't think this policy will benefit them in the long run. Increasing accessibility to their mountains would be more economically beneficial, I would think.

Possibly -- but it is Nepal's decision to make.   

I suspect that climbs of the categories not longer permitted had some combination of low revenue and higher incidence of mishap.    I think in the bulk of Everest guided climbers are "Type A" personality people that have been financially successful and ticking off Everest and the rest of the "Seven Summits" is just another accomplishment for them and they have little interest in mountaineering beyond that.    More frequent incidents of injury and death tends to damp down the business from "high rollers".

Truly adventurous climbers could always go for a solo climb on Nanga Parbat -- the permit fee from Pakistan is only $4500 per expedition of up to seven.  K2's permit fee is $7200 for a party of 7.

That's a fraction of Mt Everest permit fees.
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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 2:07 pm 
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Doppelganger wrote:
Just_Some_Hiker wrote:
Am I a stereotypical American bad guy for pointing out the fact that Nepal is a poor, backwater country on the verge of becoming a failed state?

Probably not. I do think you might have a case of the entitlements, but a few doses of perspective should clear that up.

I grew up dirt poor in a little backwater town in the Midwest. Everything I have now is thanks to hard work and opportunities afforded to me by this country. So I'm not going to take a sh## on it, even if that is the trendy thing to do nowadays.
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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 2:50 pm 
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As Fred would probably say Everest is no longer of mountaineering interest. That's why it has become the province of stunts like first blind climb, first paraplegic climb, and first clown climb.

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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 3:30 pm 
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I'm just wondering when they will add some engineering fearures to make the mountain more accessable?  A refugio high up on the mountairn and a staircase at the Hillary Step - these would increase traffic and revenues.  The mountain's potential to generate cash flow is nowhere near tapped out.
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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 3:41 pm 
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Just_Some_Hiker wrote:
So I'm not going to take a sh## on it, even if that is the trendy thing to do nowadays.

I poop on America every time I poop.

(Other than the deuces I've dropped in Canada, Mexico, France, Thailand, Spain, Costa Rica, Japan, Germany, and South Korea, of course)

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I poop

This thread his regressed at a rate similar to that of Everest.

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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 4:28 pm 
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BigBrunyon wrote:
I poop

This thread his regressed at a rate similar to that of Everest.

You have a great sense of humor.

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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 4:31 pm 
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Kilimanjaro has long required local guiding and staff.  You "freedom fighters" can complain about that next.
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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 5:09 pm 
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I would not be surprised there is more to how this policy got put into the Nepal Government.

Bribery is something that comes to mind...

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PostWed Jan 03, 2018 8:31 pm 
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BigBrunyon wrote:
Chief Joseph wrote:
BigBrunyon wrote:
I poop

This thread his regressed at a rate similar to that of Everest.

You have a great sense of humor.

Right, and my sense tells me that you're not funny.

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PostThu Jan 04, 2018 10:41 am 
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Chief Joseph wrote:
BigBrunyon wrote:
Chief Joseph wrote:
BigBrunyon wrote:
I poop

This thread his regressed at a rate similar to that of Everest.

You have a great sense of humor.

Right, and my sense tells me that you're not funny.

Sorry for offending you, OH GREAT ONE.

Everybody poops, btw.

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PostFri Jan 05, 2018 9:57 am 
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RandyHiker wrote:
Possibly -- but it is Nepal's decision to make. 

I suspect that climbs of the categories not longer permitted had some combination of low revenue and higher incidence of mishap. 

Exactly. The first concern of Nepal has to be for the well being of the Sherpas that work to support tourism in the Himalaya. The devastating icefall accident had horrible repercussions on Sherpa families in the region. In as much as handicapped climbers need more support and that Sherpas are expected to put their lives at risk in rescue operations it is easy to see why Nepal would put in place sensible restrictions.

As to solo climbers, it is important that they help support the local economy of Nepal.

Ego places a distant second.
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