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conrad74 Member
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conrad74
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Tue May 08, 2018 9:02 pm
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andypandy Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2014 Posts: 31 | TRs | Pics
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Non-native species with a high mortality rate anyway.
Overall I’m a fan.
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Windstorm Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2014 Posts: 288 | TRs | Pics
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Non-native, inbred, aggressive...not sorry they'll be gone from the Olympics. Leaving carcasses behind sounds startling at first, but I'd rather they return to nature than end up in a landfill.
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flatsqwerl Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 1049 | TRs | Pics Location: tacoma |
I look forward to finding some cool goat bones...
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Yana Hater
Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Posts: 4212 | TRs | Pics Location: Out Hating |
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Wed May 09, 2018 11:30 am
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conrad74 wrote: | Leaving carcasses behind? What would be the purpose? |
Lower the costs of the project.
PLAY SAFE! SKI ONLY IN CLOCKWISE DIRECTION! LET'S ALL HAVE FUN TOGETHER!
PLAY SAFE! SKI ONLY IN CLOCKWISE DIRECTION! LET'S ALL HAVE FUN TOGETHER!
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Ski ><((((°>
Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 12832 | TRs | Pics Location: tacoma |
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Wed May 09, 2018 12:25 pm
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My best recollection of a phone conversation with a former (retired) National Park Service Ranger some years back:
"Mike, I just wanted to let you know that there's a dead cow elk laying in the middle of the Salmon River just downstream from the bridge."
"So? What do you want me to do about it? Wild animals die in the woods all the time."
I had to concede that he had a good point. There have been a number of times when I was walking along the trail and was overcome by the stench of a rotting elk carcass near the trail.
One year it was a dead dog (or coyote) laying right next to the trail. (That one is mentioned in one of my trip reports - GoBlueHiker saw it the week prior and thought it was a bad omen.)
Wild animals die. They die in the wild. It's all part of a natural process.
For the record: Mike actually did go down a few days later with a length of rope and dragged that dead cow elk out of the river. Damn near killed himself doing it, but he managed to drag it up on the bank above the high water mark.
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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Slugman It’s a Slugfest!
Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 16874 | TRs | Pics
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Wed May 09, 2018 12:58 pm
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I like that some or maybe most will be moved to areas that have non-inbred populations.
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puzzlr Mid Fork Rocks
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Wed May 09, 2018 1:15 pm
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I have no problem with the dead animals being left, and will be glad when this non-native species is out of the Olympics.
In summer the remains of a dead animal are disposed of quite quickly by the large, small, and microscopic residents of the forest. One of my weed sites had a very smelly dead deer carcass just off the road last year and I worried about having to smell it on subsequent visits. Within a month I coudn't find anything except a few scattered white bones.
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AlpineRose Member
Joined: 08 May 2012 Posts: 1953 | TRs | Pics
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puzzlr wrote: | I have no problem with the dead animals being left, and will be glad when this non-native species is out of the Olympics. |
Neither do I. The scavengers of all species will eat well.
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Ringangleclaw Member
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Several decades ago a packers horse (or mule or burro) died up the Entiat. The plan was to dynamite it to bits. The result wasn’t like the Coos Bay whale, but rather a small hole in the ground and a bigger hole in the horse. But a big dead animal remained largely intact. But now-a-days I think the wolves would take care of the carrion.
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kbatku Questionable hiker
Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 3330 | TRs | Pics Location: Yaquima |
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Wed May 09, 2018 4:22 pm
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They should ship them all to the Enchantments - they need way more goats there.
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Randito Snarky Member
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Wed May 09, 2018 4:29 pm
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I feel like what is being done about "goat issue" in ONP is a great example of over engineering a solution to a questionable problem.
If one accepts the idea exterminating the goats from the peninsula is desirable environmentally -- why not simply allow "open season" on the goats for a few years before paying people to track them down, capture them and transport them else where.
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huron Member
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Wed May 09, 2018 5:53 pm
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Everything is non-native including all of us and the entire geology of the Olypen.
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Ringangleclaw Member
Joined: 01 Sep 2010 Posts: 1559 | TRs | Pics
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RandyHiker wrote: | I feel like what is being done about "goat issue" in ONP is a great example of over engineering a solution to a questionable problem |
I remember how concerned the NPS was about the goat situation in 1985. Thirty three years later here we are
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cartman Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 2800 | TRs | Pics Location: Fremont |
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Wed May 09, 2018 6:19 pm
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RandyHiker wrote: | why not simply allow "open season" on the goats for a few years |
Becaaause...most of them are in a National Park?
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