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PostTue Jun 05, 2018 7:20 pm 
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PostTue Jun 05, 2018 8:52 pm 
^ The author of the piece cites clearcutting as the primary cause for the population decline, but I have to wonder what sort of impact the gray wolf has had on the caribou over the last two decades? The last time I drove up Crowell Ridge Road (on the way up to Gypsy Peak - see TR from 2005) there was a sign posted warning of an upcoming road closure to protect grizzly bear habitat. I had to stop and sit and wait for about 20 minutes while a logger finished loading a truck before I could get up to the trailhead. Seems a bit odd that they'd go to the trouble to close off the entire area for grizzly bears and then allow the only resident population of caribou in the lower 48 states to die off because of habitat degradation.

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PostTue Jun 05, 2018 9:58 pm 
Sure, if there are only a few individual caribou left, a gray wolf or two might finish them off. But it was that clever-but-not-really-smart two legged predator that brought these caribou to its current sad state of affairs so quickly. Invade, gobble, slash, grab, poison. Anyone want to place bets on how long before we are reading about the last three remaining female orcas. Orcas are a charismatic species, the Selkirk caribou, not so much. So the demise of the former will make more news.

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PostTue Jun 05, 2018 11:47 pm 
^ of course. homely caribou don't get no respect.

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PostWed Jun 06, 2018 5:15 am 
Seems they should be placed on the Endangered Species List also to protect the from the other Endangered Species.

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PostWed Jun 06, 2018 6:11 pm 
Wait wouldnt clearcutting increase the amount of low height edible material?

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PostWed Jun 06, 2018 8:33 pm 
^ they eat lichen, apparently. not the same kind of diet as deer or elk.

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PostThu Jun 07, 2018 10:20 am 
Ski wrote:
...but I have to wonder what sort of impact the gray wolf has had on the caribou over the last two decades?
They hung out with plenty of wolves before and made it, so... I'm guessing something else is going on. I'm sure climate change can't make their holding on in the southern end of their range easier.

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PostThu Jun 07, 2018 2:12 pm 
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People who need to say "it's all part of the natural process, keep up with the humans or become extinct b!tches
We may find sea level rise a humbling experience. . . . many already are.

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