[Randito]

Actual experience. A coworker of mine had a 38 and a concealed carry permit. Unfortunately for him it made him more of a dick on the roads and this lead to a road rage conflict and he ended up on the street confronting the other driver and pulled his weapon, pointed it at the other driver and told him to "back off" . When the police came, they cuffed him immediately and took him into custody. Many months and thousands in court costs and attorneys fees the charges were dropped, but he had to surrender his concealed carry permit. I'm not against personal firearm ownership, but I'm against stupid ownership. Vigilante murders of thieves is a far bigger crime than car prowling.

[Malachai Constant]

Recently a teenager and his girlfriend were walking their dog at Beaver Lake Park near Issaquah. When they got back they saw some kids breaking into cars. He got a handgun and tried to stop them. His reward for his trouble was gettin killed when they ran him down. This thread like all such threads has jumped the shark and deteriorated into the personal attacks time to send it to the phantom zone.

[seattlenativemike]

[timberghost]

The trailheads along the hi way 2 corridor have seen quite an increase in break-ins the past few years. I know of a few at Heybrook, and ALW trailheads this year. Reliable trail cams under $200 could be used but LEO are more than likely to not do anything about it. I know of an instance where someone was stealing wood, caught on cam and person videoed but when it was turned over to LEO nothing was pursued. I have a CWP and carry for other reasons but shooting a car prowler would not make my list. It would be nice if the LEO would make an effort to catch these scumbags but they seem to have other priorities.

[thunderhead]

[thunderhead]

Now in a competent society people wouldn't feel so angry and so willing to shoot thieves if law enforcement actually did their jobs and politicians didn't coddle criminals.

[cambajamba]

[cambajamba]

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[Randito]

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[Randito]

To the "its much worse now than ever before" crowd

[Ski]

^ That's for the City of Seattle, not King County. It should also be considered that not everyone files a report with the local constabulary when their vehicle is broken into. If it's common knowledge among the populace that property crimes are at the very bottom of the priority list with local law enforcement, why waste time and energy filing a report? Who wants to answer a bunch of questions from the cops when nothing is going to come of it? Most people just pay the deductible, file an insurance claim, get their car fixed, and move on. (Or just pay it out of pocket instead of filing a claim and having their premiums jacked up.) Those that don't carry that kind of insurance just gnash their teeth, eat it, and chalk it up to experience. The last time I checked (which was at least a couple years ago), USFS had ONE law enforcement officer working the territory between Greenwater and the Canadian border. (or "boarder", as fearless leader would write it.) No doubt KCSO has more important stuff to do (like chasing off-leash dogs on the 520 Bridge) than worrying about your piddly-ass little problem of having your car broken into.

[treeswarper]

From the Okanogan/Methow facebook page about break ins on the North Cascades highway: Regarding recent trailhead car breakins along the HWY 20 corridor... this was just posted on the Methow BB... "Just this afternoon three culprit were apprehended front of the Mazama store. They were driving around in a red Pontiac car. Congratulation to Chief Budrow from Twisp, Winthrop Marshals and Okanogan Co. Sherrif Department.."

[Randito]