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PostSun Oct 11, 2020 8:03 am 
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We have the same problem of people using back roads for a bypass. Sometimes they even follow me, thinking that I know a secret way around, until they end up at a dead end. lol.gif
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PostSun Oct 11, 2020 10:37 am 
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ale_capone wrote:
Just my personal opinion. When I am commuting, I might take our local back roads. If I am traveling for pleasure, I find it rude to use residential roads to expedite my travels. Exception if i want to go slow and tool through to see the view. Almost any highway 2 back road sugested involves driving past front yards where people live, and kids play. Our back road is signed "not a highway 2 bypass" yet Waze and google still directs hundreds of cars that way every weekend.

Google and Waze don't know about the sign.  They might be amenable to removing your road from their algorithm if you write them.  There was a time when Google's motto was "don't be evil" and it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that somebody who works there might still feel that way.

Also, customer reported bugs are a big deal at tech companies.  If your complaint came in the form of "your map routed me down a residential street and I had to take extra care not to hit one of the children and dogs everywhere" I bet that would be prioritized more than if you asked them to stop routing people through your neighborhood.
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PostSun Oct 11, 2020 11:02 am 
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Nancyann wrote:
We have the same problem of people using back roads for a bypass. Sometimes they even follow me, thinking that I know a secret way around, until they end up at a dead end. lol.gif

Its all good as long as they are allowed to take the Kellog Lake bypass. smile.gif
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Like the other residents, I get to experience the new pedestrian stoplights more often than most visitors.  In my personal opinion, they are a good thing based on the frequency of "near-misses" I have seen along this section of the highway over the years - a daily occurrence at least.

But I think the root of the issue is poor planning by WSDOT and poor local planning related to lack of adequate parking for tourists and locals alike.  I would love to see a couple of public parking lots (even multi-story) on the north side of the highway as there is too little land on the south side between the highway and the river.  Then build a nice pedestrian overpass (or two) like the one at Stevens Pass.  Safety and convenience!   This would eliminate the need for any ped-only stoplights.  It's just my guess, but I would think that far more people cross Highway 2 in Leavenworth than crossed (prior to the overpass) at Stevens Pass annually.
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PostWed Oct 14, 2020 6:30 am 
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i the city of Leavenworth along with WSDOT has a lot to do with the poor planning thru the town. At this point a bypass is out of the question and sure the city wouldn't like it. There was a time when one of the only stop lights on Highway 2 was in Wallace Idaho. But now there's several and the one in Wallace was bypassed. Part of the population growth of the region.
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i the city of Leavenworth along with WSDOT has a lot to do with the poor planning thru the town. At this point a bypass is out of the question and sure the city wouldn't like it. There was a time when one of the only stop lights on Highway 2 was in Wallace Idaho. But now there's several and the one in Wallace was bypassed. Part of the population growth of the region.

Uhh, that was I-90, not hwy 2.  There is a difference.

It was either Kellogg or Wallace and I'm thinking more Wallace, that the original plan was to cut the town in two with I-90.  The town rebelled and the interstate was elevated above the town.

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PostWed Oct 21, 2020 10:15 pm 
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Get a freeway goin' thru 'Worth. Put a freeway in!!!

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PostThu Oct 22, 2020 12:53 am 
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It was either Kellogg or Wallace and I'm thinking more Wallace, that the original plan was to cut the town in two with I-90.  The town rebelled and the interstate was elevated above the town.

It was Wallace...Btw, if you ever go there, check out the 1313 Saloon, very historic, great ambiance, the food is good and best of all, they brew their own beer. -1313_Club_https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g35629-d1152919-ReviewsHistoric_Saloon_Grill-Wallace_Idaho.html

The waitresses wear shirts that read "The boobs are real but the smiles are fake".

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Vail, Colorado, with one of the highest per capita incomes in America, is always proposing crazy astronomically expensive ideas to put interstate 70 underground as it passes through town. Just like Wallace, the freeway goes right along the edge of the town and you can hear it everywhere (multi-million dollar homes with a freeway view and noise). I don't ever see it happening and if Vail can't get something like this, I don't think it will happen anywhere.
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PostThu Oct 22, 2020 9:15 am 
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Chief Joseph wrote:
Btw, if you ever go there, check out the 1313 Saloon, very historic, great ambiance, the food is good and best of all, they brew their own beer. -1313_Club_https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g35629-d1152919-ReviewsHistoric_Saloon_Grill-Wallace_Idaho.html

The waitresses wear shirts that read "The boobs are real but the smiles are fake".

I've stopped in there a time or two. Concur with the recommendation on ambiance and food. Love those fake smiles.

A couple years ago I took a fall on Dragontail. My bill from Cascade Medical Center was a little over $3k. The treatment I received at Cascade Medical Center was great!
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PostThu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 pm 
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altasnob wrote:
Vail, Colorado, with one of the highest per capita incomes in America, is always proposing crazy astronomically expensive ideas to put interstate 70 underground as it passes through town. Just like Wallace, the freeway goes right along the edge of the town and you can hear it everywhere (multi-million dollar homes with a freeway view and noise). I don't ever see it happening and if Vail can't get something like this, I don't think it will happen anywhere.

That's cause these guys in vail are soft and they have not used extreme force to move that freeway

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I don't know if having a freeway go overhead instead of through is much of an improvement.  I'm waiting for the potatoheads to finish their freedumb and then I plan to go ride their trails.  Apparently they are now shipping patients out of state now.

Leavenworth is a tourist town.  They wanted that.  Don't move there unless you can live with it.

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PostThu Oct 22, 2020 3:08 pm 
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I miss almost live...reminds of the days when I first moved back here in 1990.

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PostThu Oct 22, 2020 5:09 pm 
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Slugman wrote:
"Cops in Leavenworth"

I miss that local humor, too. rotf.gif  ykm.gif I wonder if a 2020 Keister & Co. take on the territory would be a hit, or if people are just wound too tight to laugh at themselves anymore.

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