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Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Washington/comments/9erxip/sam_sayers_still_missing_in_washington/
2nd Reddit Thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/9hc0em/missing_hiker_on_vesper_peak_chaos_in_the_cascades/
Teton Gravity:  https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/321860
Facebook:  Official page and alternative facebook group no longer public

New Facebook study group created by Steve Monchak on 10/8  The Truth of the Sam Sayers Case
https://www.facebook.com/groups/698480987181194/ (no longer public on 11/8/18, reappeared as a closed group 12/7/18)

[rbuzby]

[Schroder]

[Schenk]

[olderthanIusedtobe]

I went up there today.  Kind of a last minute decision.  I didn't look real hard, but honestly didn't see much in the way of signs that a group had been camping up there for an extended time.  They did better than I assumed, I have to eat my words.

[snowmonkey]

That’s ok to eat your words in this case- I’m glad it appeared better than anticipated!

[thxII38]

[AuroraSky]

It hasn't been determined if this is real or PhotoShop, but Bud posted it on his insta today (before deleting it). Unknown exactly where this is, but his description that 'he found it like this' is def BS!

[olderthanIusedtobe]

Oh boy, if that is for real then never mind any good will I thought the group might've earned.  I didn't see that while I was there, but lots of terrain up there and I didn't see all the minutiae.

[BugGurl747]

A few days ago he carved a wood stick in honor of his buddy with the same style letters- all caps, while up on the mountain. It's an IG video.

Shortly after posting the "f### NWH" photo to IG, people questioned how he just stumbled upon that random spot? Not only do the letters mimic his, his vulgar language mimics him as well.


Would there be any ramifications for something like this?

[Ski]

Nothing quite like showing your true colors to the world.

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"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach. 
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."

[MtnGoat]

Implicit admission of an impact upon them.

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers

[moonspots]

[Vertec]

Vesper Camp Damage - before and after photos of the tent site.

Before photos are frame grabs from video taken on 9/17/18 (the day the mountain was 'taken'):

Photos of the same location on 10/22/18.  Notice the trench dug to divert rainwater from the tent pad, and dead "grass".

Sorry for the delay in posting this (been busy).  Also had to consider implications of what has been observed in social media, specifically the "rants" about taking photos of the area.
I find it strange that someone can be so "rattled" by pictures taken on public land.

I enjoy courteous interaction with other wilderness travelers, including polite questions.  I obey all laws and public land regulations.  However I must assert that I have no obligation or desire to discuss the multiple freedoms I exercise on public lands including hiking, photography, and other well regulated but constitutionally protected rights.

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Out There, carrying the self-evident truth I am endowed by my Creator with unalienable rights of self-defended Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

[olderthanIusedtobe]

Thanks for sharing Vertec.  I didn't look very closely when I was up there, I definitely missed that.  Didn't see the trench or an area with so much heather that had obviously been damaged.  Disappointing.

[Anne Elk]

My thanks also, Vertec.   
The trench is particularly concerning since it will enlarge over time without intervention. Some remediation should definitely happen.

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"There are yahoos out there.  It’s why we can’t have nice things."  - Tom Mahood