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cascadeclimber Member
Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 1427 | TRs | Pics
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We're once again arrived at the season of people piling logs and branches in muddy spots on trails. IME, this only serves to make worse the issue, as the logs trap more water on the trail and soon rot into...more mud.
A little bit of mud isn't going to hurt you or your boots; it's okay to walk through. Kids think it's fun. Embrace your inner child and stomp some mud!
If you want to make a positive difference, use a shovel or the heel of your boot to make a trench through which the water can escape the low spot. The heel method can be surprisingly effective.
But the wobbly, rotting, water trapping, ankle-busting logs? Please refrain.
Thank you.
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coldrain108 Thundering Herd
Joined: 05 Aug 2010 Posts: 1858 | TRs | Pics Location: somewhere over the rainbow |
cascadeclimber wrote: | A little bit of mud isn't going to hurt you or your boots |
but it makes a huge mess out of lame trail running shoes. Same with late season snow.
Knuckleheads make a separate side trail instead of just walking across the snow or through the standing melt water.
With my old fashioned, well treated leather boots I just walk right straight through mud/snow/water. No need for creating another social trail just to keep my tennis shoes dry.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
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Schenk Off Leash Man
Joined: 16 Apr 2012 Posts: 2372 | TRs | Pics Location: Traveling, with the bear, to the other side of the Mountain |
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:39 pm
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coldrain108 wrote: | Knuckleheads make a separate side trail instead of just walking across the snow or through the standing melt water. |
Agreed! Get some sensible shoes dammit!
Nature exists with a stark indifference to humans' situation.
Nature exists with a stark indifference to humans' situation.
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treeswarper Alleged Sockpuppet!
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 11272 | TRs | Pics Location: Don't move here |
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treeswarper
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:02 pm
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Hmmm, I envisioned reinforced waterbars made with logs anchored in place and a drainage outlet dug, not thrown in chunks. Sigh.
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
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Ski ><((((°>
Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 12798 | TRs | Pics Location: tacoma |
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:51 pm
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No... he's talking about chuckleheads who fill mudholes full of anything laying around - logs, sticks, whatever. Turns an otherwise perfectly good mudhole into an ankle-breaker.
Solution is to remove all the wood, and fill the hole in with rock. Usually takes a lot of rock to fill in a big mudhole: about 50 or 60 5-gallon buckets full of rock down at the bottom end of Beach Trail #1 at Kalaloch, as I recall, for a mudhole about 8 feet long.
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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Randito Snarky Member
Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 9495 | TRs | Pics Location: Bellevue at the moment. |
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:41 pm
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Isn't training for climbing supposed to include agility training and awareness? Didn't Edward Whymper say: "Be careful each step and remember the risk".
Just another example of CascadeClimber complaining about those he deems unworthy not using the trails in way that is most convenient for him.
#WhatAWhiner
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Malachai Constant Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 16088 | TRs | Pics Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny |
When I first saw this I thought it was about LNT catholes
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
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Bernardo Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 2174 | TRs | Pics Location: out and about in the world |
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:19 pm
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Any views on rocks as stepping stones?
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DIYSteve seeking hygge
Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 12655 | TRs | Pics Location: here now |
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:36 pm
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yeah, that, and you goddam kids get off my lawn!
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RumiDude Marmota olympus
Joined: 26 Jul 2009 Posts: 3580 | TRs | Pics Location: Port Angeles |
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:40 pm
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Embrace the fact that people are just going to do that stuff regardless. It will save you the angst and the proliferation of angst ridden threads on NWHikers.
Rumi
"This is my Indian summer ... I'm far more dangerous now, because I don't care at all."
"This is my Indian summer ... I'm far more dangerous now, because I don't care at all."
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joker seeker
Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 7953 | TRs | Pics Location: state of confusion |
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:07 pm
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Posting here will surely stop the practice
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cascadeclimber Member
Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 1427 | TRs | Pics
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RandyHiker wrote: | Just another example of CascadeClimber complaining about those he deems unworthy not using the trails in way that is most convenient for him.
#WhatAWhiner |
Really? Complain about me and then call me a whiner? Sheesh, dude, hypocrite much? I just asked that people not pile sh## in mudholes that will only make them worse.
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kbatku Questionable hiker
Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 3330 | TRs | Pics Location: Yaquima |
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kbatku
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:30 pm
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Cabin fever set in early this year
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Damian Member
Joined: 18 Dec 2001 Posts: 3260 | TRs | Pics
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:54 pm
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Where was all this passion when I launched my Coffee Cup thread recently?
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neek Member
Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 2329 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle, WA |
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neek
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:08 pm
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Well now we know who's been putting rotten wobbly logs on trails!
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