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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 12:23 pm 
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We're once again arrived at the season of people piling logs and branches in muddy spots on trails. IME, this only serves to make worse the issue, as the logs trap more water on the trail and soon rot into...more mud.

A little bit of mud isn't going to hurt you or your boots; it's okay to walk through. Kids think it's fun. Embrace your inner child and stomp some mud!

If you want to make a positive difference, use a shovel or the heel of your boot to make a trench through which the water can escape the low spot. The heel method can be surprisingly effective.

But the wobbly, rotting, water trapping, ankle-busting logs? Please refrain.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 12:38 pm 
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cascadeclimber wrote:
A little bit of mud isn't going to hurt you or your boots

but it makes a huge mess out of lame trail running shoes.  Same with late season snow.
Knuckleheads make a separate side trail instead of just walking across the snow or through the standing melt water.

With my old fashioned, well treated leather boots I just walk right straight through mud/snow/water.  No need for creating another social trail just to keep my tennis shoes dry.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 1:39 pm 
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coldrain108 wrote:
Knuckleheads make a separate side trail instead of just walking across the snow or through the standing melt water. 

up.gif  agree.gif Agreed! Get some sensible shoes dammit!

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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 3:02 pm 
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Hmmm, I envisioned reinforced waterbars made with logs anchored in place and a drainage outlet dug, not thrown in chunks.  Sigh.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 3:51 pm 
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No... he's talking about chuckleheads who fill mudholes full of anything laying around - logs, sticks, whatever. Turns an otherwise perfectly good mudhole into an ankle-breaker.
Solution is to remove all the wood, and fill the hole in with rock. Usually takes a lot of rock to fill in a big mudhole: about 50 or 60 5-gallon buckets full of rock down at the bottom end of Beach Trail #1 at Kalaloch, as I recall, for a mudhole about 8 feet long.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 4:41 pm 
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Isn't training for climbing supposed to include agility training and awareness? Didn't Edward Whymper say: "Be careful each step and remember the risk".

Just another example of CascadeClimber complaining about those he deems unworthy not using the trails in way that is most convenient for him.

#WhatAWhiner
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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 4:44 pm 
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When I first saw this I thought it was about LNT catholes doh.gif

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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 5:19 pm 
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Any views on rocks as stepping stones?
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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 5:36 pm 
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yeah, that, and you goddam kids get off my lawn!
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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 5:40 pm 
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Embrace the fact that people are just going to do that stuff regardless. It will save you the angst and the proliferation of angst ridden threads on NWHikers.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 6:07 pm 
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Posting here will surely stop the practice
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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 6:28 pm 
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RandyHiker wrote:
Just another example of CascadeClimber complaining about those he deems unworthy not using the trails in way that is most convenient for him.

#WhatAWhiner

Really? Complain about me and then call me a whiner? Sheesh, dude, hypocrite much? I just asked that people not pile sh## in mudholes that will only make them worse.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 7:30 pm 
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Cabin fever set in early this year
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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 8:54 pm 
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Where was all this passion when I launched my Coffee Cup thread recently?
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PostTue Nov 13, 2018 9:08 pm 
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Well now we know who's been putting rotten wobbly logs on trails!
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