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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 9:04 am 
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Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave

Coordinates:   https://goo.gl/maps/GhT1scK3FzT2

Pretty neat, but I'm sure somebody has visited it before.  Will be interesting to see pics from the inside.
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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 10:16 am 
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Any unknown water hazards?
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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 10:48 am 
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DadFly wrote:
Any unknown water hazards?
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Actually, what an interesting find. And what further caught my eye is the apparent past stream path beyond the cave entrance, before the water found its way down into the cave. I wonder how long ago the stream was diverted, the old stream bed looked to be recently vacated.

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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 11:53 am 
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I do not really know if there is a cave there or a sinkhole. The area was recently glaciated and glaciers in that area in rapid retreat. I have been in the area as far as Huntley col. Travel is not that difficult there and all the major peaks have been climbed. There are however large grizzly in the area which I have seen evidence of. The rock appears to be low grade metamorphic which seldom forms traditional caves. My guess is it is a sinkhole leading to a porous layer where the water disappears to emerge as springs on the hillside below.

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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 12:53 pm 
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This is very cool, sooperfly.  First I've heard of it, so thanks for posting. The still photo gives the illusion that you're looking at a horizontal entrance (no depth cues).  The helo video shows what's really going on.  When I was in school in Alberta during the 70's, the Castleguard Cave was getting a lot of attention, thanks to a documentary made around that time (link is in the article). Unfortunately, the film's music score sounds like it belongs in a spaghetti western.

Spelunkers are a different breed of I-don't-know-what.  Discovered fairly late in life that I have claustrophobia when it comes to caves.  Even have trouble with the really short old RR tunnels at Robe Canyon Park.  Can't go in there w/o being creeped out by the thought of collapse.

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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 1:07 pm 
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Spelunkers are a different breed.
I dabbled at it in Montana decades ago. Lots of muddy rope work and long cool days.
The additional large creek flowing into the cave presents a whole new level of terror.
I have also dabbled in white water kayaking and found it too dangerous for when my kids were little.
Putting white water forces, total darkness, little chance of rescue and the potential for a freezing dip all together,..... JUST NO.

But I would love to see the documentary.

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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 2:04 pm 
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Dadfly - the Castleguard doc llink is at the bottom of the Wikipedia article I cited.  Pretty good for the era, I guess, except for the corny music.  Seems like many of these caves aren't particularly interesting re the usual ooh-ahh stalactite formations, so as you say, mostly a lot of high danger misery - cold plus wet plus dark.  The recent incident in Asia when a group a school kids was trapped deep in a cave by water from an unexpected early rain comes to mind.

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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 2:25 pm 
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Cool find

I see reports  from inside complex or tricky caves as fascinating but not at all enticing!
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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 6:20 pm 
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Anne Elk wrote:
Pretty good for the era, I guess, except for the corny music.

Gold line, carbide, external frame packs, unkempt hair. The music was fine.
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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 6:31 pm 
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What a great film!
It totally captures the epic nature of the trip.

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Near the end of the film there's mention that it took a support team of 17 to shoot that doc.  Amazing effort by those guys, assuming they weren't likely cavers themselves. Watching the film again after so many years has piqued my interest in looking around t0 see what more current explorations have yielded.

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PostMon Dec 03, 2018 9:32 pm 
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Way cool find !!!   I find caves really interesting though scary when there's water or vertical drops.., fun to hear about!!!

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PostTue Dec 04, 2018 12:29 pm 
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Malachai Constant wrote:
I have been in the area as far as Huntley col. Travel is not that difficult there and all the major peaks have been climbed. There are however large grizzly in the area which I have seen evidence of.

The area north of Azure Lake has been on my go explore list for awhile. My wife and I had planned to do Huntley Col as an overnighter from a base camp on Azure Lake this fall, but we arrived the day the jet boat concession shut down so had to settle for Trophy Meadows instead. We did see a sow grizzly and cubs in Trophy Meadows though so that made up for it, but we still have unfinished business north of Azure Lake. This post makes me want to go back even more. No denying that the Internet sends more people to previously unknown places. That's why I never post trip reports, but I certainly admit to mining info that others have posted...
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