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PostMon Mar 04, 2019 10:33 am 
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Mountain Loop Highway Feasibility Study - USDOT Office of Federal Lands Highway

Is it time to pave the entire Mountain Loop Highway? - article in the Herald
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I would be saddened to see the Mountain loop paved and I'm sure lots of other folks would agree.  I believe it would be the end of the informal camps along the route.  It would certainly take away the sense of adventure that one has driving the unpaved portions of the route.  I think the traffic would substantially increase and the costs and pressures to keep the route open would be expensive for the agencies concerned.   One mans opinions....

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PostTue Mar 05, 2019 9:28 am 
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I agree that traffic would increase but I think one argument is that it's easier to maintain once it's paved.  Much of the opposition would rather see the road closed completely.  I don't think the camps will go away - they haven't on the Verlot to Barlow Pass side.
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What a boondoggle this would be. It isn't graded for high speed driving, which is what will happen if it is paved, and it will cost so much money. Unbelievable they are even considering wasting money on this project.
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JVesquire wrote:
What a boondoggle this would be. It isn't graded for high speed driving, which is what will happen if it is paved, and it will cost so much money. Unbelievable they are even considering wasting money on this project.

I completely agree. Plus I own property along the MLH, and traffic is already insane on a nice summer day.

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I think the paving of the Middle Fork of the Snoqualmie road has been an improvement in many ways.  I particularly appreciate the improved access for the King County sheriff and patrols that have greatly curtailed that lawlessness that was rampant in the past with Bullet riddled junk cars and appliances decorating many turn outs.
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I can't believe anybody would be against this, we all saw the aftermath of the Oso disaster.
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Pro:  I think the comparison the Middle Fork Snoqualmie is a good assessment.

Con:  Once you pave something, you are then obligated to keep up that type of quality for the remainder of the road.

Pro:  If the road goes to paving, then we don't have to worry about losing another road to "unmaintained status" because too many people want that road.

Con:  If it goes to paving it might take a couple of years for "no access" in some areas.

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This topic just brought back a memory.  We had driven to Monte Cristo and kept going up the deteriorating road past the concentrator and all the way to just below Mystery Mines and Glacier Falls where there was room for one car to park.  It was pouring down rain and we had been sitting in the car for half an hour debating whether to start up our planned climb of Wilman Peak when a large, new 4-door sedan pulled up behind us and the driver got out and asked us if we were on the road to Darrington.
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PostTue Mar 05, 2019 5:11 pm 
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Cyclopath wrote:
I can't believe anybody would be against this, we all saw the aftermath of the Oso disaster.

I'm not making the connection here...?  What does paving the MLH have to do with Oso?

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Bedivere wrote:
I'm not making the connection here...?  What does paving the MLH have to do with Oso?

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The Herald wrote:
it could be an alternative route in case of an emergency. That issue generated a lot of discussion after the 2014 Oso mudslide, when the closure of Highway 530 forced many drivers to and from Darrington to detour through Skagit County.
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PostTue Mar 05, 2019 5:37 pm 
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It's hard enough to maintain the road as it is, what with landslides, floods, etc....remember how long it took them to repair that washed out bridge what in '07? Plus it cost a lot of money. I just think that the landscape makes it unfeasible to try to build and maintain a paved road through there.

Somewhat like building a railroad through Robe Canyon, although obviously not that bad.

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I assume if they pave the MLH it would still be closed in the winter (normally closed December to May). Oso landslide was in March, and I assume most landslides occur in the wet months. So paving the MLH would not necessarily provide alternate routes to Darrington during the winter (landslide) season.
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Paving negates the need for a 4WD, high-clearance vehicle. No angst for those who travel on all fours--but I prefer my Yaris in the absence of potholes, craters, and trenches.
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PostThu Mar 07, 2019 12:03 am 
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Schroder wrote:
Bedivere wrote:
I'm not making the connection here...?  What does paving the MLH have to do with Oso?

here:

The Herald wrote:
it could be an alternative route in case of an emergency. That issue generated a lot of discussion after the 2014 Oso mudslide, when the closure of Highway 530 forced many drivers to and from Darrington to detour through Skagit County.


Ah, okay. Thanks.

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