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PostMon Mar 11, 2019 4:50 pm 
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Ok, but FS road #49 still goes to the NFSauk TH doesn't it? Or did last fall given on found 2 TR's for that area.

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PostMon Mar 11, 2019 4:59 pm 
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Chief Joseph wrote:
Ok, but FS road #49 still goes to the NFSauk TH doesn't it? Or did last fall given on found 2 TR's for that area.

Yes. You used to be only half way up the road at that trailhead.
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PostMon Mar 11, 2019 5:14 pm 
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I couldn't make the meetings but I submitted my comments earlier.

My feeling is that paving the last 14 mile section is long overdue.  When they moved the highway out of Darrington to the west side of the river as far as the White Chuck and paved it, the project was expected to continue shortly after but the budget ran dry.  It eliminated the worst section of road though between the Sauk Prairie Road and the White Chuck, which was pothole heaven.  I might see some issues on the stretch between Elliot Creek and Barlow Pass but not north of there.  There's also not as much snow at that elevation (Barlow Pass the highest at 2400') that would make it difficult to plow as an emergency route.  At one time they used to plow the south side from Verlot to Barlow Pass regularly.
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PostTue Mar 12, 2019 9:25 am 
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It finally came to me, I recall several years ago looking at an old map and seeing Sloan Campground, which is where I assume FS road #49 previously ended, and was probably the beginning of the old trail to Sloan Meadows and Peak. Thanks Kim, Ann, and Shroder.

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PostFri Mar 15, 2019 5:52 am 
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It will make it easier for people to haul their old trailers, motorhomes, and garbage up there to dump it
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PostSun Mar 31, 2019 9:25 am 
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I think there are some big differences between it and the Middle Fork of the Snoqualmie. The Middle Fork had terrible potholes (the parts that aren't paved still have them). In contrast, the gravel part of the Mountain Loop is not that bad. Second, the Middle Fork is much closer to lots and lots of people. This combination of being a very bad road, and close to a lot of people made it a favorite dumping ground. People could get rid of junk, and figure no cop is going to bother to go out that far. Nor are you likely to have a witness, other than a hiker who will ignore you (having seen Deliverance). Paving has changed the dynamic. It is very easy to patrol, because again, it is very close to town.

In contrast, paving the remaining section of the Mountain Loop is kind of like paving the remaining section of the Middle Fork. I don't think either unpaved road is a big problem, just because it takes a while for most people to get out there. I could be wrong, but I've never seen the trash off the mountain loop that I saw on the Middle Fork. If anything, I would rather they pave the remaining part of the Middle Fork, just because it is such a terrible road.

Which gets me to the main point. I am fine with this, but I have a hard time believing this is the best use of money. There are plenty of other roads that I wish were paved, and plenty of other roads that I wish just were regraded (so that they were as good as the gravel part of the Mountain Loop).  Having said that, I understand that the money can't simply be thrown at other projects. Different agencies have different budgets and different jurisdictions.
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PostMon Apr 01, 2019 8:12 am 
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FWIW: Once the section from Barlow Pass down is paved, It will form a "Century" road biking loop -- I can see this becoming a new Cascade Bicycle club "classic" ride akin to STP, RSVP and RAMROD.
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PostWed Apr 03, 2019 6:56 am 
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Kim Brown wrote:
Itís a great little trail to Bald Eagle and Bowser Lakes (but we missed out on finding the route to Bowser Lakes).

I don't think there is any sort of formal or informal route to Bowser from the Bald Eagle trail. But there was a constructed trail dropping down to Bowser Lake at one time. You can clearly see the switchbacks from the lake shore. While it is grown over, it can still be followed up toward the pass that is directly on the line between the lake and Bald Eagle. But the tread ends in the rocks near the pass and I couldn't see where it went on the other side. Do you know anything about that old trail?

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PostWed Apr 03, 2019 7:08 am 
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Schroder wrote:
My feeling is that paving the last 14 mile section is long overdue

Hey Schro, would that section be paving feasible?  That section seems to take a lot of yearly abuse.

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