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bgs8379 Member
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bgs8379
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Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:21 am
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How many people got tore up by the Hawtorne plants this summer half way between Boulder and Thunder ?
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wolffie Member
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wolffie
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Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:37 am
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You mean the White River Trail between Boulder Creek and Thunder Creek?
I don't believe I have ever noticed hawthorns in the mountains (Crataegus phaenopyrum). They are wickedly thorny small trees and hard to miss.
I went from Boulder Ck to the Pass less than 10 years ago, in brush so thick I couldn't see my dog at my feet, but nothing thorny, except perhaps salmonberry.
Are hawthorns appearing in the mountains? Common ornamental. Haws are all over my front yard, I'm often tracking some into the house. I can imagine them getting stuck in peoples' shoes and spreading that way.
Some people have better things to do with their lives than walking the dog. Some don't.
Some people have better things to do with their lives than walking the dog. Some don't.
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Merlin Member
Joined: 14 Jul 2018 Posts: 16 | TRs | Pics Location: Leavenworth |
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Merlin
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Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:39 am
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Quote: | Are hawthorns appearing in the mountains? Common ornamental. Haws are all over my front yard, I'm often tracking some into the house. I can imagine them getting stuck in peoples' shoes and spreading that way. |
We always called them 'whore-thorn' doing ecology work haha! The thorns are just for defense however the tree produces fruit to propagate.
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Sky Hiker Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 1469 | TRs | Pics Location: outside |
So it sounds like it has been a while since anyone has been up the White River trail past Boulder Pass junction. I was there about 5 years ago and obviously that area is susceptible to avalanche sliding.
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Sculpin Member
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Sculpin
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Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:26 am
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We have two species of hawthorn native to Washington State, Crataegus douglasii and Crataegus chrysocarpa. The former is common on both sides of the Cascades, but as Wolffie attests, does not climb the mountains. Crataegus chrysocarpa (quite striking in bloom!) is an uncommon plant of riparian habitat found only on the East side. It is hard to find and not trivial to differentiate from C. douglasii. They both has wicked thorns of course.
The Consortium of Northwest Herbaria has a documented occurrence of C. douglasii west of Merritt in a riparian area. So although there are no documented occurrences in the White River drainage, it is not inconceivable.
Crataegus phaenopyrum is known as the Washington Hawthorn, but in found only in the southeastern US.
Between every two pines is a doorway to the new world. - John Muir
Between every two pines is a doorway to the new world. - John Muir
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Sky Hiker Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 1469 | TRs | Pics Location: outside |
Well regardless of stickers it's time to do some trail work. As you move further south from the junction the trail might be better or just go to a abandoned trail
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Sallie4jo Member
Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 220 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
Some friends of mine were up there and over to the nepequah in September i think. They didn't talk too much about the trail being bad, but they did say there was alot of trash up at the pass/campsites which saddened me. They also ran into horse folks. Cant say more
I choose to live in a landscape of hope.
Terry Tempest Williams
I choose to live in a landscape of hope.
Terry Tempest Williams
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Sky Hiker Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 1469 | TRs | Pics Location: outside |
The area I am talking about goes straight instead of heading up the Boulder Pass trail
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Sallie4jo Member
Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 220 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
I hiked it in the 80s on a circumnavigation of gp ..it was quite doable back then albeit quite overgrown in many places. Lightning creek looked like it could wreck real havoc and my understanding when it was used as the alternative route for the pct after the flooding in 2003 that it was not good at all. It's too bad cause brings u up to a great location on the pct..better than indian creek which was a broken ankle waiting to happen. Many fond memories.
I choose to live in a landscape of hope.
Terry Tempest Williams
I choose to live in a landscape of hope.
Terry Tempest Williams
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Sky Hiker Member
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Would love to see some pictures of that when you went thru.
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Damian Member
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Damian
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Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:15 pm
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Sallie4jo wrote: | horse folks |
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Sallie4jo Member
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Not sure what i have...will see when I get a moment. That was back when I carried a heavy 35 mm camera and there was nothing light weight in regard to gear...lots fewer people..which i loved!!!
I choose to live in a landscape of hope.
Terry Tempest Williams
I choose to live in a landscape of hope.
Terry Tempest Williams
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Sky Hiker Member
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