[Vertec]

Climbed P3 today. The trail is ok except the steep section in the trees before the scramble is still a bit water logged and slippery. The scramble is dried out and firm. I wasn't planing a traverse to Defiance, but here's some info: I was able to take good photos of Defiance from P3 hoping to post here before the holiday weekend. But flickr is suffering from its script kiddy brain damage at the moment, so I can't post them. If that heals, I'll try to add them here. The traverse to Defiance has snow on the north side of the ridge, but the exposed rock on the south side is clear. The treed section of the traverse is contains significant snow. Sorry I can't post the photos.... WTF is going on with flickr????

[Vertec]

Ok, Flickr is slightly less brain damaged: Defiance:

The Traverse:

[flatsqwerl]

Thats a fun one.

[jdk610]

Thank you, I was just wondering about snow conditions on this traverse!

[puzzlr]

[joker]

Ironically, when I first hit "reply" on this thread received an error from this site's phpBB software system ;-) I have a friend who works on AWS and says that most big client migrations to AWS go relatively smoothly. She was surprised by how long Flickr was coughing up furballs. My impression has been that Flickr has always been built and maintained by what those of us in the industry have called "cowboy coders" (i.e. often not following processes that are standard elsewhere for good reason for instance), and this migration suggests they're still on the job since the acquisition.