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PostWed Aug 21, 2019 10:38 am 
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SwitchbackFisher wrote:
I do like your idea of charging more to get into sensitive areas as well.

The land of the free? I am totally against that idea, but then I don't think I should have to pay to hike or even to fish, I guess I am a bit of a "Separatist".

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PostWed Aug 21, 2019 10:38 am 
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Yes population growth in the  region is part  of the  picture, but FS data I saw in an semi-recent news story showed that  trail use appears to  have increased at a rate significantly higher than the region's population in the past decade-ish. I think it was in the  ST... Yes some is tourists not from here, but a lot of it  is just that  a higher  percent of  the  population is getting out and getting out more  often. Which IMO can be a very good thing for our society,  but presents new challenges out in the wild lands around here too.

And yeah sure bagging other people's trash is a great idea (on one of my more recent hikes one of the more intriguing trash items I carried out was  one of those "how to pair your Bluetooth device to this speaker" stickers  rolleyes.gif ) but is a bandaid compared to spreading the  norm of reducing one's  impact on the  land while out there. I have to wonder whether a "get a bag from the ranger and reduce your parking pass fee" program would just lead a significant sub-group of hikers to think "cool, there will  be janitors following in my wake so I don't need to be so careful about picking up after myself." Don't get me wrong - this idea is in the  vein of the right sort of creative  thinking to be doing, but I'd love  to see ways of getting people not to be leaving the trash in the first place, along with thinking about how their posts about trips might either help concentrate impact or disperse it along  with how they can model good low impact travel practices through their postings.
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PostWed Aug 21, 2019 10:55 am 
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Maybe we need a program like this for LNT?

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PostWed Aug 21, 2019 3:58 pm 
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Cyclopath wrote:
Maybe we need a program like this for LNT?


Yes they are especially on Highway 2 and the drivers know it regardless of the conditions. They have no respect for others most times too busy to get down the road and sit in line!!!
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PostThu Aug 22, 2019 1:47 pm 
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Cyclopath wrote:
Maybe we need a program like this for LNT?


I get that this was (hopefully) posted in jest, but it's still pretty poor taste to joke about shooting people.
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PostThu Aug 22, 2019 3:05 pm 
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PostThu Aug 22, 2019 4:27 pm 
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Sky Hiker wrote:
Cyclopath wrote:
Maybe we need a program like this for LNT?


Yes they are especially on Highway 2 and the drivers know it regardless of the conditions. They have no respect for others most times too busy to get down the road and sit in line!!!

Cars pushin' 90+ on that stretch east of the Stevens summit!

I was driving back from a hard day in the 'chants late last October. Sunday night. About midnight. THICK fog. Couldn't see a thing, vis was getting down to 2-3 seconds in front of the car! Cars tailgating me hard in that stretch coming down between Steven's and Bar. Had to just tell myself I knew the road was designed for 60 mph and kept speed. All the while grippin' that wheel and hitting the juul pen constantly in attempt to remain alert! Very dangerous conditions.

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PostSat Aug 24, 2019 4:44 am 
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I did a little social experiment on a small beach/eddy on the skykomish. I made a river Phoenix out of driftwood, and a nice little nest. I put a couple random pieces of lost fishing gear in the nest. Suprisingly, it has lasted all summer, but Over the course  of a few months it has accumulated a shopping bag full of trash.

I'll clean it out before fall floods wash it away. For now I'm leaving it as a statement. I want idiots to have to look at the trash they leave

Somewhere near perth.

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PostSat Aug 24, 2019 5:41 am 
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HEY SWITCHBACK FISHER ....grumpy has nothing to do with it...just frigging ameteurs trashing the sensitive areas because they have to go oh oh look where we went!...

or OH i just wanna share soo badly how great this area is ....well lliterly sh## ON ME..AND MY CAMPSIGHT CAUSE like i said there the are will be trashed out fished out and destroyed with exposure to  amateurs...

your experiences for getting to area's that have been trashed out? ...ya must not be from washington.. what area's have you seen trashed out??

go ahead let's everyone all list them please...

STARTING WITH the pic's in backpacker magazine from some PIN-HEAD of the area above trap lake....

HOW ABOUT the lakes above Snow lake?? granted these area's recover some after 15+ years..

How about he guy I met who said he heard there were huge fish in a certain lake...then proceeded (sans a real map, just his phone_) to hike 7miles past the turn-off to said lake...we ran into him next morning and had a good laugh...
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